I would also really like to hear more first hand opinions (not pseudo youtube reviews) about these headphones because I am seriously considering them (I won't buy them anyway until they are available in Europe)Great point! Have you had a chance to try these? Would love to hear additional forum members chime in if they have!
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The Hardest hitting Headphones are.. ( "The EXTREME BASS Club")
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plakat
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Just for clarity, the 'acoustic lens' is not a marketing thing.
That part of the driver that covers the diaphragm is not just a protective layer with holes: itis critical in tuning and 'shaping' the sound of any and all dynamic drivers.
Hope that clears things up a bit.
I completely agree with you on all of these examples & that physics are the main thing. I also think that there’s a bit of a curveball in CrossWave’s technology around how it disperses the sounds more akin to real life than direct firing headphone drivers.
I think the question to ponder is “can you make a driver sound larger by changing how the air arrives at the ear”
My anecdotal experience is that these sound massive & have experience peers more akin to the 100mm LCD Drivers than even 50mm Dynamic comparisons.
It reminds me a bit of what Ultrasone does with their S-Logic, which also covers up part of the driver -- though I never especially liked the results of that.
It also reminds me of the pressure chamber of a horn-loaded speaker system. Horn-loaded speaker systems generally have incredible dynamics, but especially the design of the pressure chamber is quite hard.
dstarr3
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I'll admit I am curious about the VZR, as well. But not $350 curious. Yikes. That's a hell of a gamble, and I'm not a gambling man.
I'll probably buy them at one point to check them out. But not now, a year or two who knows. No, I won't review them, I like to listen to music not to gossip about sounds/frequencies. Plus, I'm stuffed with what I already have, I don't need more, danke.
GREQ
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I would love to try them, but they are 'impossible' to buy outside of North America.Great point! Have you had a chance to try these? Would love to hear additional forum members chime in if they have!
I'm very curious about their tuning and what kind of presentation they offer.
Agree, but it seems like it's taken a bit further than those concepts.It reminds me a bit of what Ultrasone does with their S-Logic, which also covers up part of the driver -- though I never especially liked the results of that.
It also reminds me of the pressure chamber of a horn-loaded speaker system. Horn-loaded speaker systems generally have incredible dynamics, but especially the design of the pressure chamber is quite hard.
So far the commebts/reviews show correlation.
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I had not seen the Ultrasone “widget!”
It's weird because audiophiles in the speaker world love their bass. I look at many freq response graphs of beloved headphones and the rolled off bass(sub bass) nearly silences a whole instrument section in modern music.I think many audiophiles ideals are still rooted in a time of analog instruments (and as far as I know in former times not even most organs were that big to produce really deep bass except for a select few). Even with Jazz deep bass doesn't matter that much (though there are exceptions, and some Jazz bassists love their deep notes), but with modern electronica deep bass with interesting structure not even became possible, but even a focus point.
I fully understand that nobody needs their Mozart string quartets to rattle their bones. If it does, there certainly is something quite wrong. If, on the other hand, Prodigy doesn't move some serious air volume, there is also something not aligned with how things should be. I heard they once even cancelled a show due to volume restrictions...
Which directly leads me to the disconnection between product demos at shows and real world use cases... at shows modern electronic music tends to be ignored more or less completely. But I digress...
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That’s what’s so crazy about the VZR. It’s equally next level with Deadmau5 & Norah Jones.
I’m definitely the speakers guy that loves his JL Audio Subs. I think it’s the spatial rendering that brings so much new definition, dimension and physicality to the sound direct firing headphones lack. It’s literally 2d vs 3d.
It’s still stereo, there’s no new DSP information. It’s just rendered better in a massive sphere like soundstage. Sound moves forward and back. Piano strings vibrating rendered with new dimension bring out the “I’m there” experience.
Bass slaps more realistically. A recent comment from a friend was “I’ve never heard such realistic drums in headphones before.” I’ve certainly thought the same thing.
I’m definitely the speakers guy that loves his JL Audio Subs. I think it’s the spatial rendering that brings so much new definition, dimension and physicality to the sound direct firing headphones lack. It’s literally 2d vs 3d.
It’s still stereo, there’s no new DSP information. It’s just rendered better in a massive sphere like soundstage. Sound moves forward and back. Piano strings vibrating rendered with new dimension bring out the “I’m there” experience.
Bass slaps more realistically. A recent comment from a friend was “I’ve never heard such realistic drums in headphones before.” I’ve certainly thought the same thing.
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Azmerth
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Would the ZMF Atticus fit in this category. I've seen that a lot of people feel they have great mid bass and bass with the right ear pads.
I'm using the V-mode LP2's these days, really nice strong bass, especially the midbass. Listenin with the K5 pro though have to put the volume up close to max on it with around 3/4 on my raspberry pi so I guess it can handle quite a few watts! Manage to get pulseaudio equalizer working on it finally, had some bugs at first but it works nice now and has around 30 bands that u can even cut any band to 0. Currently have the last few at 0 to cut the treble when listening to loud bass heavy tunes and of course the bass almost at the max, only isssue is theres no indicator of the db level like other equalizers.
Shane D
Headphoneus Supremus
Has anybody here tried the new HiFiman HE-R9's? I have read some good things and bought a set on sale this morning. Cheap enough to experiment.
The Campfire Audio Cascade hits like a freight train. Their Solaris IEM is similar. The Empire Ears Legend EVO also does amazing bass through dual subwoofers and a unique bone conduction system. Killer.
IThinkILikeBass
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Tell me how you like em!Has anybody here tried the new HiFiman HE-R9's? I have read some good things and bought a set on sale this morning. Cheap enough to experiment.
I heard they're bass cannons
I see the Cascade mentioned a lot, has it got much stronger bass pressure to the LP2?The Campfire Audio Cascade hits like a freight train. Their Solaris IEM is similar. The Empire Ears Legend EVO also does amazing bass through dual subwoofers and a unique bone conduction system. Killer.
baunauf
Head-Fier
I own the M-100. The bass isn't that good. Check out the Hifiman XS or Hifiman HE400 (original) with some bass boost. Oh lord it's so good.I *love* the M-100, which shares pads with the LP2. I've put XL pads on most of my M-100 sets, those pads are much more spacious and increase comfort quite a bit. You might want to give them a shot, they also fit the LP2.
https://www.v-moda.com/eu/en/products/xl-cushions
I'm also after low bass, midbass tends to scare me off because its giving me stress. The M-100 fits my taste very well -- I own 2 in white and 4 in black
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