[Music Alchemist]

Senenheiser could really care less about resale value on a discontinued item. They are focused on maximizing revenue and profit for their shareholders, if they can make an Orpheous successor, that will profit the company, they will do it.

 
I dunno. Far less sales due to a much higher price than their other stuff could result in potentially less profits. And the latest rumor is that the Orpheus successor will cost $40,000-50,000. Let's say that rumor is true. Well, it's hard to say how much profit they'd make, but they definitely wouldn't sell it to many people. If they instead simply start making the original Orpheus again, at a lower price than originally, that would be awesome...but again, even if they could make it for cheaper nowadays, there's the issue of higher production cost than their other products, lower production volume, and less sales volume. It's impossible to guarantee a profit in any business venture. I heard they didn't even profit from the original Orpheus.

 

[preproman]

Statement products aren't "always" made to make a profit, they're made to make a statement which the Orpheus did.

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Statement products aren't "always" made to make a profit, they're made to make a statement which the Orpheus did.

 
Precisely why I won't keep my hopes up for an Orpheus rerelease.

 

[Wildcatsare1]

Both points true, but the initial Post included Senenheiser being concerned with the resale value of the original. The point was that that is not part of what they would consider in the development of a replacement.

Preporman is correct, a statement is to demonstrate your company's capabilities, probably not a revenue driver.

 

[Music Alchemist]

Both points true, but the initial Post included Senenheiser being concerned with the resale value of the original. The point was that that is not part of what they would consider in the development of a replacement.

Preporman is correct, a statement is to demonstrate your company's capabilities, probably not a revenue driver.

 
I never said anything about Sennheiser being concerned with the resale value of the original.
 
My original statement is below. (Pun now intended. lol)
 

  Plus that could drive down the value of the original units, which sell for over $10,000 for the headphone alone nowadays.

 
For me, that could be a good thing, though, as long as it's the same headphone as the original. On the other hand, if they change the headphone, that could end up increasing the value of the originals. And of course, the originals would still have higher perceived collector value regardless.

 

[preproman]

It was implied and in context.

 

[paradoxper]

I'd rather pick up a state of the art Stax system.

 

[catspaw]

   
I dunno. Far less sales due to a much higher price than their other stuff could result in potentially less profits. And the latest rumor is that the Orpheus successor will cost $40,000-50,000. Let's say that rumor is true. Well, it's hard to say how much profit they'd make, but they definitely wouldn't sell it to many people. If they instead simply start making the original Orpheus again, at a lower price than originally, that would be awesome...but again, even if they could make it for cheaper nowadays, there's the issue of higher production cost than their other products, lower production volume, and less sales volume. It's impossible to guarantee a profit in any business venture. I heard they didn't even profit from the original Orpheus.

Thats why I was wondering about the orpheus with todays manufacturing process.
Call me crazy but I think the cost of the orpheus could drop significantly since it was introduced.
There may be a problem with warranty and service thou, and if thats is the case, Id understand sennheiser nnot going for Electrostats, but sticking to more "modular" hps.

 

[perhapss]

   
For what it's worth, I like the STAX SR-207 and Yamaha HPH-MT220 quite a bit more than the HE1000, with all music.

 
I must say, your post adds to my curiousity regarding the HPH-MT220.

 

[Music Alchemist]

  I must say, your post adds to my curiousity regarding the HPH-MT220.

 
Read through this impressions thread to get a better feel about its sound and how it improves with modifications. I enjoy the MT220 so much that I get teased for recommending it so frequently. Every person I know who bought it from my recommendation loves it. I even prefer it over my two STAX headphones in terms of its punchy bass and dynamic, engaging sound, though the STAX beat it in most categories, especially transparency in the sense of sounding like real instruments.

 

[Rhamnetin]

Can someone please lend this man an HE1000 ? We need to see what the great Mahler thinks of this in relation to the 009 MDR10 and Orpheus

 
He should really be sent review samples (production models preferably).  Manufacturers should know of this thread.

 

[Music Alchemist]

  He should really be sent review samples (production models preferably).  Manufacturers should know of this thread.

 
That's a wonderful idea. We should contact the relevant companies and explain the situation to them! (Especially about how having him review their headphones on his thread could improve their sales.)

 

[Rhamnetin]

   
That's a wonderful idea. We should contact the relevant companies and explain the situation to them! (Especially about how having him review their headphones on his thread could improve their sales.)

 
Yeah this thread has well over 1 million views, and I've seen other manufacturers in other industries do something similar (forum reviews so to speak).

 

[RUMAY408]

David's massive HP thread is as objective as I've seen on any type of A/V forum.
 
I have heard about 2/3's of the top 50 HP's and several similar setups and I am still astounded at how well the reviews, as they were at that time, hold up.

 

[cme4dp]

My go to :
FiiO x5 gen 2        $359.00
Schiit Magni          $129.00
HiFiman HE-400  $249.00
2 SanDisk 128s    $130.00
 
works very well together is a price performance wonder.
Jim F