Silent One
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HE-500 smoother treble than LCD2?
Eh IMO HE500's treble is not that smooth with the pads they come with (velour earpads), it has a fair bit of sibilance. It's apparent in the measurements too:
That hump centered around 11kHz is serious business. The resulting treble behaviour is one of the (several) reasons why I looked elsewhere for an earpad solution (e.g. modding the pleather earpads).
At $700, I'm not sure you can do much better than the HE-500.
I sold My HE-500s and Got the T90's
Couldn't be happier really.
Just wondering, out of those who have heard both for more than a few minutes.... how do you guys think they compare?
Just wanted to take a minute and say that the original post is still amazing and that I continually come back to it as a reference. I actually sort of wish there was another one of these for cans that didn't quite make the cut (or weren't flagships), but that's just being greedy.
Also, this was the tipping point that made me take a blind leap towards the LCD-3's, and I couldn't be happier with 'em.
Thanks for the great reviews!
the clamp improves and soon the HD 650 some of the most comfortable headphones out there.
i agree with david on HD 600 and HD 650, the smoothness and extra warmth seems to be a good thing.
Can anyone tip me one of these headphones that has similar sound to q701 but punchiet lows? Amazing read btw
I just upgraded from the Q701 to the HE-400. I haven't heard the HE-500, but here are my basic impressions:
Bass -- So much better on the HE-400. It goes just as deep, if not deeper, hits much harder, and is faster. Even though it's faster, it's not necessarily "tighter," since the HE-400 has much more midbass.
Midrange -- More recessed compared to the Q701, but it has a fast, tactile edge that really sounds nice on distorted guiters and synths. More crunch.
Highs -- Maybe not as extended as the Q701. The HE-400 are less bright overall, but there is a peak in the treble that gives it some sparkle (or fatigue, depending on how much you like highs). I thought the highs on the Q701 were smoother, but also more emphasized.
Soundstage/ Imaging -- The HE-400 have a smaller soundstage, but not by a large amount. However, the imaging is significantly better and more precise. I found the Q701s emphasized width but could also sound too diffuse. The HE-400 are more focused and 3D. You are closer to the music and the center image is denser.
Detail -- A bit more detail through the HE-400. The Q701, with their brighter sound, can make small details louder and more obvious, but the HE-400 reveals more in the end. You have to listen more closely though.
Overall, the HE-400 have more of a "v-shaped" signature, with a focused and precise soundstage that's moderately smaller. The imaging is really much more defined. The HE-400 have a lot more midbass and a denser, thicker sound. Somewhat paradoxically, though, the HE-400 is also faster and more resolving. Sounds snap in and out of a nice, black background, and there is a tactile and precisely textured weight to the bass and midrange.
Hope that helps.
I brought the DT-880 (600ohm) and the HE-400. Your analysis on them was very helpful for me. Absolutely amazed by these hps and could not be happier. Thank you David!
Just wanted to take a minute and say that the original post is still amazing and that I continually come back to it as a reference. I actually sort of wish there was another one of these for cans that didn't quite make the cut (or weren't flagships), but that's just being greedy.
Also, this was the tipping point that made me take a blind leap towards the LCD-3's, and I couldn't be happier with 'em.
Thanks for the great reviews!