[AndroidVageta]

   
*Snip*

 
Have you listened to extensively or have ever owned the likes of the Sony MDR-EX1000, UM Miracle, JH13, or JH16?
 
Also, as I posted for Jay:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/440126/sennheiser-hd800-vs-jh-13-pro-battle-of-the-titans/15
 
That's multiple people there claiming to like the JH13 (non-FP version no less) better than the HD800. Now, we can all agree I'd think that the HD800 is better than the HE-400, correct? Just pointing this out.
 
Either way, don't really feel like getting into it. If you think IEM's don't sound as good as something like the HE-400 then that's fine.

 

[pachoo5]

Full sized headphones are without a doubt better than in ear monitors. They just are. IEMs are nice for portability and lack of sound leakage, but at any given price point, the full sized headphone will sound better than the IEM. I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

 

[AndroidVageta]

  Full sized headphones are without a doubt better than in ear monitors. They just are. IEMs are nice for portability and lack of sound leakage, but at any given price point, the full sized headphone will sound better than the IEM. I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

 
Forgot the "in my opinion" bit.
 
Find me a pair of fullsized cans that sound as good as the $40 Carbo Tenores. Better bass, sound stage, clarity. If they exist I sure as hell have never seen or heard them.
 
If you're going to make such blanket (and quite honestly false) statements then at least back it up with something. 
 
That's like me saying any Ferrari is better than any Lamborghini at any price range and that no one could argue otherwise.

 

[pachoo5]

Is an IMO really needed? We are all obviously posting opinions. How am I supposed to back up an opinion? We aren't talking about facts here. 

 

[pp312]

I think the problem arose from the sentence, "I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise."
 
There's always someone who can argue otherwise.

 

[Honkytime]

  I think the problem arose from the sentence, "I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise."
 
There's always someone who can argue otherwise.

So true

 

[money4me247]

lol this thread has gotten so off-topic.
 
i believe the original complaint was that this reviewer did not talk about IEMs in his battle of headphones. he actually does have a comparisons between IEMs for anyone interested.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/396277/a-comparison-of-all-my-iems-now-with-review-w3-sennheiser-ie8-ue10-pro-se530-er4p-triple-fi-sensaphonics-2xs-etc
 
here are some other discussion threads around here talking about or comparing flagship IEMs.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/485170/review-clash-of-the-titans-3d-jh16-pro-vs-jh13-pro
http://www.head-fi.org/t/531203/jh13-vs-jh16-after-at-least-a-year-which-is-the-better-one
http://www.head-fi.org/t/553576/best-custom-iem-period
 
in terms of "best," it really just comes down to application & what kind of sound signature appeals to you. there are obviously headphones that certain people love to death, but in the end, it is all subjective personal preference. throwing out a list of expensive flagship IEMs does not really prove anything more than a list of a bunch of expensive flagship full-sized headphones.
 
I think if anyone else wants to discuss the merits of IEMs, they should take the discussion to a more appropriate thread

 

[XERO1]

Subbed.

 

[Guidostrunk]

Agreed. When I first joined I was on the iem bandwagon. Tf10, sm3, and many more universals. I also had a pair of earsonics EM3-pro customs. All being run off a clas> sr71b. With that being said, now owning the hd-650, I'll never look back. Yes "IMO" the hd650 sound way better than the 1000 dollar EM3's I've owned and every universal I've owned. The 650's just do everything better to my ears, soundstage being the most significant difference.


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[DimaSebastian]

Speechless, thank you for all the hard work.

 

[mtndew23]

This thread has been very helpful to me, and it's the first place I check if I'm thinking about getting a new headphone. Thanks so much for all the time and effort you put into this

 

[DavidMahler]

I'm very glad and honored that this thread continues to help others!

 

[DimaSebastian]

Only one question , and this is a predictable one xD.Why haven't the MrSpeaker's line ended in the battle??

 

[Ron12]

I would really like to thank you David for the majestic piece you brought to life here... Invaluable, really. Too bad it's mostly done.

 

[RCBinTN]

  I'm very glad and honored that this thread continues to help others!

 
I agree, this thread continues to be the reference thread of all time!