[seanc6441]

really about the only difference i note is maybe a tiny bit of harshness in the mids on the EMX500S compared to the RY4S UE. But really they are very very close afaic...

Emx500 is brighter but I find the ry4s the more agressive in the mids, more emphasis around 1khz meaning more shout. Neither are too harsh though

Although I like both of the above, they have different characters. The RY4S UE has tight bass, decent soundstage and excellent clarity, but it is a bit cool and the mids (vocals) are a little thin. On the other hand, the EMX500S is overall warmer and darker, and although the soundstage is bigger there is less definition throughout the FR.

Better than both of them IMO is the Snow Lotus 1.0. It has most of the best aspects of the other two, the mids are more natural and forward than both, and overall is the better all-rounder to my ears.

My original emx500 is about as bright as the ry4s but less agressive.

 

[ROPVWV]

I've not heard the ry4s UE so I cannot speak to their sound, but I love a warm, bassy sound signature and the Snow Lotus 1.0 is the best earbud I've ever used. Really good bass, great mids, and great detail, all with fantastic resolution.

Awesome! I'm looking for a balanced sound signature leaning towards the warmer side of the spectrum without the mids feeling too receded, but I worried I'd struggle to hear the bass with this model

 

[mbwilson111]

Do you guys are really talking about Snow Lotus 1.0 ? or the discontinued 1.0+ ?
I think I will order 2 pairs of 1.0 tonight anyway

I have both the 1.0 and the 1.0+. I enjoy both. I can easily recommend the 1.0 which is the only one of the two available.

 

[MisterMudd]

Although I like both of the above, they have different characters. The RY4S UE has tight bass, decent soundstage and excellent clarity, but it is a bit cool and the mids (vocals) are a little thin. On the other hand, the EMX500S is overall warmer and darker, and although the soundstage is bigger there is less definition throughout the FR.

Better than both of them IMO is the Snow Lotus 1.0. It has most of the best aspects of the other two, the mids are more natural and forward than both, and overall is the better all-rounder to my ears.

Snow-Lotus 1.0 is good, but I scored what must have been the last Snow-Lotus 1.0+ on Amazon US, and I am here to tell you the 1.0+ is wwaaaayyy better than the plain 1.0. I wish they had not discontinued the 1.0+ as I would have bought 10 pairs. Better clarity, separation, awesome bass, and huge soundstage.

 

[mbwilson111]

Snow-Lotus 1.0 is good, but I scored what must have been the last Snow-Lotus 1.0+ on Amazon US, and I am here to tell you the 1.0+ is wwaaaayyy better than the plain 1.0. I wish they had not discontinued the 1.0+ as I would have bought 10 pairs. Better clarity, separation, awesome bass, and huge soundstage.

But there is no point in saying that if people cannot get a 1.0+...

I actually do not know which one I like better... I think it is whichever is in my ears. I just get lost in the music most of the time and don't really try to find fault with my buds, iems or headphones.

 

[Willber]

Do you guys are really talking about Snow Lotus 1.0 ? or the discontinued 1.0+ ?

1.0 - I don't have the 1.0+.

 

[Willber]

My original emx500 is about as bright as the ry4s but less agressive.

I don't have the original EMX500 but I do have the DIY EMX500 PK2. I find it brighter than the EMXS500. In fact it is very similar to the RY4S UE (it shares the same cable) but slightly warmer, especially the mids. I prefer it, and the PK2 shell is more comfortable.

 

[seanc6441]

I don't have the original EMX500 but I do have the DIY EMX500 PK2. I find it brighter than the EMXS500. In fact it is very similar to the RY4S UE (it shares the same cable) but slightly warmer, especially the mids. I prefer it, and the PK2 shell is more comfortable.

Not sure why they dont sell that earbud separately. As it's not an emx500 driver and is practically a different earbud (since 15.4mm drivers wont fit in pk shells).

Hows the bass on the pk emx500 compared to Ry4S and emx500s?

 

[Willber]

Not sure why they dont sell that earbud separately. As it's not an emx500 driver and is practically a different earbud (since 15.4mm drivers wont fit in pk shells).

I'm not sure either. It is a bit hidden away in this advert - option 11:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...867.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.ebfa4c4dSjPb3L

Hows the bass on the pk emx500 compared to Ry4S and emx500s?

The EMX500 PK has very similar bass to the RY4S UE - tight and punchy, very well defined. The EMXS500 is deeper but woollier. Not badly so, just a different approach to presenting the music.

 

[mbwilson111]

I've done handstands and running with it and it will not fall off.

I hope you have a video to share!

 

[chinmie]

I hope you have a video to share!

no!

 

[mbwilson111]

no!

Well maybe today will be a nice day to make a video! Add some cartwheels too! You have to thoroughly test these buds...maybe some bungee jumping.

 

[phower]

Finally, the doubts have been cleared.
Break-in have been scientifically tested and found to be non-existent
The only difference was in THD and it was found to be less than 0.1%
You can listen to how the headphones sounded before and after break-in testing at

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/break-in

 

[seanc6441]

Finally, the doubts have been cleared.
Break-in have been scientifically tested and found to be non-existent
The only difference was in THD and it was found to be less than 0.1%
You can also listen to how the headphones sounded at each interval.

https://www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/break-in

That didn't stop cable believers (measurements) and it won't stop people believing in burn in!

It's funny because there's people who say cables are nonsense but believe fully in burn and and vice versa.

Also didn't they measure the AKG K701 and find there to be a difference pre and post burn in? (This was one of the few times the difference was 'measureable').

My point being it's difficult to say ANYTHING with 100% conviction when it comes to audio gear. Whether that's pro or anti cables/burn in etc.

 

[phower]

That didn't stop cable believers (measurements) amd it won't stop people believing in burn in!

It's funny because there's people who say cables are nonsense but believe fully in burn and and vice versa.

Some audiophiles are stubborn. It is almost a mental disorder
Break-in might be relevant to loud speakers where the cloth/rubber surround needs to become pliable, but headphone drivers don't have such components.