Earbuds Round-Up
Oct 9, 2018 at 8:19 PM Post #36,332 of 75,280
Shozy BK's are in the house (thanks Bavinck for selling them to me!)!

Clearly better than every other earbud I own. Better instrument placement, better air, better detail and better soundstage. BUT, in terms of actual frequency response, the BKs have a peak in the 4-6K region that makes them peaky. Personally, the Yincrow RW-777 portrays the frequency range better than these Shozys even if they don't have quite the detail. I'd rather have slightly smoother resolution if it means no annoying 4-6K chi-fi peak. I need some better Equalizer APO skills to really target and fix this. Anyone know of a good tutorial for it?
Mine don't have much of a peak anywhere. They're about the most neutral of all the buds I own. Maybe the manufacturing tolerances aren't that tight between units? (BTW, I'm using ToneKing thin donut foams on my BK buds.)

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Oct 9, 2018 at 8:19 PM Post #36,333 of 75,280
RD cannot really be compared to other earbuds since it's 100% order made and adapted to the buyers wishes. Herry has made other custom earbuds before, one was called "Silver warrior" (love that name).
Unlike CAX Black edition and White CampFred ($300+ TOTL earbuds from Cypherus) the custom earbuds appear to not have a fixed sound etc.

So they will be more of a mythical "earbud to rule all other earbuds" rather than a TOTL earbud that people save up for. I would never have ordered RD myself but they sort of fell into my lap and when I had a chance to buy them second hand I could not refuse. Also, I do not want full size headphones and look for such sounds in earbuds.

The main focus of Cypherus is the "regular" series of earbuds such as CampFred 2 and ZoomFred and the occational limited series such as CAX Black (around 10 pairs made in total) and White CampFred (around 5 pairs made). I'm looking forward to what might come after ZoomFred.

This discussions feels a bit silly just like the "fake Oyaide connector discussion" a week or so ago...
 
Oct 9, 2018 at 8:20 PM Post #36,334 of 75,280
The reviewer HawaiiBadBoy (you guys know him) just trashed the Shozy BK. Lovers here might want to give him a spark! hahaha :)

Tbvh his review style does not agree with me. He comes off as not thorough
 
Oct 9, 2018 at 8:34 PM Post #36,336 of 75,280
I don't think I can buy them anywhere. What do you find special about them. You do have many nice choices..

they sound good for the money, fairly balanced mids and treble, with a good deep subbass and less midbass than the Vido. overall i like the tuning better than vido. not to mention they look great

i think the best way to do it is asking rholupat to buy it and send it, or for instance when buying from willsound and ask a favor to buy it also
 
Oct 9, 2018 at 8:47 PM Post #36,337 of 75,280
The reviewer HawaiiBadBoy (you guys know him) just trashed the Shozy BK. Lovers here might want to give him a spark! hahaha :)


can't say he's to blame, he does come from listening to a lot of IEMs. when i switch from IEMs to earbuds, i also would find earbuds in general sounded veiled and unsparkly, turn the situation around, going from earbuds, IEMs would always sound hollow on the mids. i bet the Mojito would be great for him

also the BK has a differing sound from each unit (i have heard almost 10 of them and the sound is slightly different from each other). the first batch seems to be the best sounding.

I was pointed to another audio site where the comments regarding the Datura X were pretty negative. I really enjoy them for falling asleep with while listening to trance. I hadn't really tried them out with other genres, and I still haven't except for with my favorite torture track Paranoid Android. Yup, on that track the Datura X's highs are a bit painful (splashy and harsh). In comparison the Svara L (32ohm)'s highs were well controlled, albeit close to being too bright (on that track). The easiest to listen to were the Willsound Mk2 rev2 - made for Paranoid Android lol.

I really like the Datura X's for trance, but if you are listening to music with a lot of treble, ymmv.

i listen to OK computer with the Liebesleid...pure treble goodness :jecklinsmile:

Let Down is a great track to test the mids detail of earphones. if you can hear what Thom's saying, then the earphones have good mids
 
Oct 9, 2018 at 8:47 PM Post #36,338 of 75,280
I think you misunderstood, herry doesn't market them as 'Utopia' or 'HD800', its simply the buyers who are saying that he attempted to tune them as such (which is pretty awesome right?)

I guess you totally misunderstood me my point . I did not refer or in any way specific the red dragon you're referring or single out any other DIY / amateur tuned earbud ( except for VE earbud ) .

Not only the red dragon pair you had preach about , but many many others diy, amateur tuned earbuds out there have a asking price beyond hundred of usd per pair .
There's a price to pay and I had paid my school fees .
I had found out that 1 very obvious fact is that the Zen ear bud which marketed and sell by VE are the only one ear bud which impressed me the most with my preference of genres of music and what to expect in a earbud performance.

Mind you I'm not out to badmouth or to discredit diys amateur tuners in anyway . In fact i had been supporting my local diys amateur projects by purchasing from them more than any other countries tuners , because of what I had pointed out earlier which is quite impossible for me to conduct a proper audit first before making any of the purchase.
There's just too many good reviews of earbud out there , and it's hard for a guy like me to do a pay first audit later thingy , I did not had a deep pocket so my purchase is always done in a very cautious way
 
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Oct 9, 2018 at 9:15 PM Post #36,340 of 75,280
It's always difficult or had that lack of confidence in buying such diy / amateur made earbuds especially when it's something cost over a hundred or several hundreds usd dollar earbud .
Unlike big brand names phones which is readily available for proper audition at the local friendly audio store .
These diy / amateur made earbud is nearly impossible to do a proper audit before purchasing .
Unless someone around you had own one and let you had a go with it before anything or the seller are based at where you are , if not most of the purchase of such ear buds are based on reviewer reviews or mouth to mouth recommendation etc .

It's equally to a blind purchase actually without testing it , even though the product had been highly rated among user there's still that bit of risk which after parting your money for the product , in the end the product may not suit your taste at all , unfortunately this is one of the downside and it's going to be like this , unless seller can appoint agents or dealers with their products in different countries .

Even when it comes to venture electronics products , be it hi end or low end priced , they're products are no where easier to access for audition before purchasing , still need to rely on mouth to mouth recommendation , user hands on impression etc .. in order to build up a certain amount of confidence first before purchasing .

It's more or less about having that confidence really , maybe it's easier to made a buying decision for a $5-20usd purchase , but a lot more different when it comes to purchase things which cost over hundreds or several hundreds usd dollar .


There's plenty of diy / amateur ear buds nowadays which easily cost over hundreds of usd on the market , it's nearly impossible for a normal user like me and many others here to have a seller willing to mail me a pair of their earbud for me to do a proper audition before purchase .

So I too rely on mouth to mouth recommendation and owner reviews online , but umm so far I got to admit and to be frank the only earbud purchase which did not disappoint me are those comes with VE .
Especially with that 320ohm 178usd earbud , which I had recable .
It's a fxxing good buy and a awesome reasonable priced for a detachable earbud .

Maybe that Hawaii bad boy ought to choose the 178usd earbud a go on his next review .
I think he would love it , Especially it's a potentially basshead earbud after recable and pair it up with a powerful Amp and have it Amp it up

what earbud are you referring to? the Zen 2 detachable?

I totally agree. This talk of custom-made Red Dragons that are tuned to sound like the Utopias is a total turn-off for me. It sounds sketchy on too many levels. Firstly, it's BS marketing. Even if they've somewhat tuned the FR to match that of the Utopia - and even if you wanted your headphones to have a nasty 5 kHz peak, THD, noise and transient response won't match those of an actual Utopia. Plus, I doubt Focal are being paid to license their product name.

Maybe these Red Dragons are awesome to the ears of their current owners, but we all hear things differently. (It was lucky I never recommended the Shozy BK buds to hawaiibadboy - I love them, but obviously he didn't.) Buying any headphones unseen/unheard is a crapshoot, but the Red Dragons look like a really expensive crapshoot.

true. if had not a community of friends where i could test many earbuds before purchasing, i might still be sticking to the sub $50. the southeast asian DIYs are also more varied and confusing. i haven't tried the Moonbuds and Blurs for instance (well i only tried one, the Blur Choco) because they're not popular among my group of friends. I'm not saying they're not good, but only pointing out that no one took the plunge to try them. add to the fact that these DIYs have a wildly inconsistent sound. i only stick to builders that have high consistency sound in their batch products and have a high rate of positive reviews
 
Oct 9, 2018 at 9:22 PM Post #36,341 of 75,280
Mine don't have much of a peak anywhere. They're about the most neutral of all the buds I own. Maybe the manufacturing tolerances aren't that tight between units? (BTW, I'm using ToneKing thin donut foams on my BK buds.)


There are clear peaks at 1500, 3000, 4000-5000 and 9000. At least i heard them on mine when i cchecked a frequency sweep. My K7xx are more neutral, but damn the detail, texture and note timbre on these bks are awesome. I suck at EQing. Always scrw with note timbre too much trying to reduce peaks.
 
Oct 9, 2018 at 9:28 PM Post #36,342 of 75,280
also the BK has a differing sound from each unit (i have heard almost 10 of them and the sound is slightly different from each other). the first batch seems to be the best sounding.

Might have to do with the fact that Shozy ran out of that particularly good cable used on the original batch and they have to source a slightly different cable on later batch.
 
Oct 9, 2018 at 9:28 PM Post #36,343 of 75,280

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