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Maybe they didn't fit his ear well?
He said he din't get a good fit. If you are not going to attempt to get a good fit how can you judge?
 
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It's pretty amazing that my $8.39 RY4S w/UE cable, sounds nearly as good as my $108 set of K's 500. :ksc75smile:
Thanks for that. I just got mine, and they you are right - they are awesome and instant budget king - giant killers imo! :)

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btw, I really had to suck my gut in for that pic lol!
 
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I'll give 'em a try in 1 year. Just wait a bit! :wink:
Time to make connections at the local PO, bribe someone high up :wink:
That's interesting. I wonder if he got a defective pair?
They just have a tuning that will not be loved by everyone. I kinda agree with his points if I had to use the stock foams with them too. It's after swapping to a combo of thin foams and donuts or just thin foams that these start to sound better.

But again they really do have the thickest low mids in all the earbuds ive heard and it can be perceived as veil and lack of detail in some cases.
 
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Time to make connections at the local PO, bribe someone high up :wink:
It's not THAT bad. It "only" took about 3 weeks from Arlanda customs in the north of Stockholm to my town south of Stockholm...

I meant that I will try the new ATH earbuds out when the family goes to Japan next year, probably in August/September...
 
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I totally agree. This talk of custom-made Red Dragons that are tuned to sound like the Utopias is a total turn-off for me. It sounds sketchy on too many levels. Firstly, it's BS marketing. Even if they've somewhat tuned the FR to match that of the Utopia - and even if you wanted your headphones to have a nasty 5 kHz peak, THD, noise and transient response won't match those of an actual Utopia. Plus, I doubt Focal are being paid to license their product name.

Maybe these Red Dragons are awesome to the ears of their current owners, but we all hear things differently. (It was lucky I never recommended the Shozy BK buds to hawaiibadboy - I love them, but obviously he didn't.) Buying any headphones unseen/unheard is a crapshoot, but the Red Dragons look like a really expensive crapshoot.
I think you misunderstood, herry doesn't market them as 'Utopia' or 'HD800', its simply the buyers who are saying that he attempted to tune them as such (which is pretty awesome right?)
 
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If anyone here wins a bs1 experience in the penon giveaway, give it to me! I want the inferior experience not official version.
 
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He said he din't get a good fit. If you are not going to attempt to get a good fit how can you judge?
The Linsoul have PK shells so I don't think fit had anything to do with it
 
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I think you misunderstood, herry doesn't marked them as 'Utopia' or 'HD800', its simply the buyers who are saying that he attempted to tune them as such (which is pretty awesome right?)
I honestly don't know if that's awesome. There was a reason I sold my Utopias. I do really like the HD800S, but when I want to hear something that sounds like an HD800S, I just use my HD800S.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, every headphone has its flaws. I'd expect a $700+ headphone to forge its own sound and try to be the best it can, given the limitations of its own form factor, and not try to mimic the warts and flaws of something else. But I concede it's a great marketing pitch. I can imagine somebody taking this one step further and selling pot-luck headphones - each of which would come with a randomly-chosen FR. Nobody could write a negative review of your headphones, because the CNET/Verge/Hawaiibadboy units would all be different. Happy days :)
 
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Shozy BK's are in the house (thanks Bavinck for selling them to me!)!

Clearly better than every other earbud I own. Better instrument placement, better air, better detail and better soundstage. BUT, in terms of actual frequency response, the BKs have a peak in the 4-6K region that makes them peaky. Personally, the Yincrow RW-777 portrays the frequency range better than these Shozys even if they don't have quite the detail. I'd rather have slightly smoother resolution if it means no annoying 4-6K chi-fi peak. I need some better Equalizer APO skills to really target and fix this. Anyone know of a good tutorial for it?
 
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Shozy BK's are in the house (thanks Bavinck for selling them to me!)!

Clearly better than every other earbud I own. Better instrument placement, better air, better detail and better soundstage. BUT, in terms of actual frequency response, the BKs have a peak in the 4-6K region that makes them peaky. Personally, the Yincrow RW-777 portrays the frequency range better than these Shozys even if they don't have quite the detail. I'd rather have slightly smoother resolution if it means no annoying 4-6K chi-fi peak. I need some better Equalizer APO skills to really target and fix this. Anyone know of a good tutorial for it?
Mine don't have much of a peak anywhere. They're about the most neutral of all the buds I own. Maybe the manufacturing tolerances aren't that tight between units? (BTW, I'm using ToneKing thin donut foams on my BK buds.)

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