[snip3r77]

QLS 361?

You all don’t use desktop dac and amp?

 

[golov17]

You all don’t use desktop dac and amp?

No

 

[activatorfly]

Agreed but only on some tracks it's apperant that's why I boost the sub bass but don't touch the mid bass. Not because it's particularly mid-bassy or bloated but I feel like the bass needs to be tilted slightly to separate the sub bass from the upper bass. Adding a few DB at 16-32hz and boosting the 650hz 'low mids' helped define the bass.

There's also the question of how the foams are covering the back ports. The EB2 is particularly open on each side as much or more so than mx500 shells. How much foams are reducing the airflow would have a big impact on the low end performance.

Thicker foams would actually restrict more air flow and possibly tighten up the bass while helping sub bass impact with the seal.

What foams are you using out of curiosity?

Just received VE Ex pack & attached rubber hoops with thick donuts to the EB2 - there's a definite boost of bass & sub bass - impressive value pack imo!

 

[mbwilson111]

The EB2 is a good bud. It has a really good clear vocal section. It doesn’t have a very defined bass section though. It’s hard to tell a bass note from a kick drum, for instance. It has nice separation ands a wide soundstage.
The Datura X also has a pretty wide soundstage but it is altogether fuller sounding and more balanced. It has a bigger and more defined bass section. I like it better, but enjoy both.
The EB2 is small and comfortable while the Datura X is built very sturdily but also very comfortable. I like the braided cable on the Datura better than the encapsulated cable on the EB2. Both are nice, though.

Soundwise I love both the EB2 and the Datura X. The EB2 is a bit more comfortable for me. I think it is a bit smaller overall.

Thicker foams would actually restrict more air flow and possibly tighten up the bass while helping sub bass impact with the seal.

I am using the foams that were packaged with the EB2. On the Datura X I have the thin foams to help them fit me better. The fit was not good when I tried my husbands pair.. .he had thicker foams on them. I tried no foams but that almost always results in any bud feeling slippery to me.

 

[chinmie]

now that's tempting, was just discussing with a friend about ordering the EX1000 (or at least the EX800ST) since they're still comparable to even the Andromeda. Which version of the PS100-500, may I ask? looks a lot cheaper than the Samsara (if my googling is right).

mine is the classic version. I'd still suggest the Samsara as closer to that EX1000 though, as the PS100-500 has a thinner bass and slightly more forward mids than the EX. Samsara is more engulfing in soundstage than the PS100-500.

 

[snip3r77]

Soundwise I love both the EB2 and the Datura X. The EB2 is a bit more comfortable for me. I think it is a bit smaller overall.



I am using the foams that were packaged with the EB2. On the Datura X I have the thin foams to help them fit me better. The fit was not good when I tried my husbands pair.. .he had thicker foams on them. I tried no foams but that almost always results in any bud feeling slippery to me.

Some silly questions

Assume your ear is too small for mx500
So using any foam will make it worst , should one go without any foam ?

 

[mbwilson111]

Some silly questions

Assume your ear is too small for mx500
So using any foam will make it worst , should one go without any foam ?

You would have to go without foam if using it makes the fit worse. I think some people do. I do not hear all the minute sound differences that sean does if I change foams. I have to just go with what is comfortable for me. This also means I do not use donuts because I would have to glue them on to keep them from sliding in weird ways on the bud. Plus impossible for me to put them on anyway.

I do have a couple of buds that I use without foams but I can't remember which ones at the moment and I might change my mind when I next use them.

 

[ClieOS]

Can help compare with those totl more than usd100 de ?

I'll give a burn-in first, but the first impression is excellent. It is a very full and loudspeaker like presentation. SQ isn't lacking either. I reckon we are talking at least a second tier flagship level, if not better.

You all don’t use desktop dac and amp?

I have some decent desktop gears, just that I don't spend much time in stationary location when listening to music so might as well invest into portable gears first.

 

[Zerohour88]

mine is the classic version. I'd still suggest the Samsara as closer to that EX1000 though, as the PS100-500 has a thinner bass and slightly more forward mids than the EX. Samsara is more engulfing in soundstage than the PS100-500.

thanks, that's another model added to my wishlist (EBX, K's Samsara/300) for the coming 11.11 sale. Justifying earbuds purchase is so much easier when I know I'll be using it almost all the time on the pc

 

[RobinFood]

mine is the classic version. I'd still suggest the Samsara as closer to that EX1000 though, as the PS100-500 has a thinner bass and slightly more forward mids than the EX. Samsara is more engulfing in soundstage than the PS100-500.

I tried the ex1000 a few months ago and couldn't see what the hype was about. It might not help that I felt the fit was horrible, that it didn't really give any isolation, and that I don't really like the Sony house sound usually.

All this talk about the Samsara though is getting me curious. You said it has even more bass presence than the Willsound MK2?! It seems to be a popular TOTL entry model, how does it compare to your other buds?

 

[snip3r77]

I'll give a burn-in first, but the first impression is excellent. It is a very full and loudspeaker like presentation. SQ isn't lacking either. I reckon we are talking at least a second tier flagship level, if not better.



I have some decent desktop gears, just that I don't spend much time in stationary location when listening to music so might as well invest into portable gears first.

I have desk dac/amp and DAP but if I'm at home mostly I reach for my desk gear.
DAP is strictly on the go for me la~ If weekend I'd just use my iPhone, don't want to lug another extra item

 

[snip3r77]

I'll give a burn-in first, but the first impression is excellent. It is a very full and loudspeaker like presentation. SQ isn't lacking either. I reckon we are talking at least a second tier flagship level, if not better.



I have some decent desktop gears, just that I don't spend much time in stationary location when listening to music so might as well invest into portable gears first.

I already have MK1 and MK3 in my "collection" LOLz

 

[snip3r77]

Anyone gotten the **** PT25 the red fart?

 

[mbwilson111]

Anyone gotten the **** PT25 the red fart?

Just need to search the thread a little... this is from two days ago


https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds-round-up.441400/page-2369#post-14500826

 

[waynes world]

because my curiosity on the EX1000, a really nice friend of mine lent me his so i could try them out. now that i have tried them, I'm not lusting too much about it anymore, because the Samsara (and also the PS100-500) is pound per pound can match it's performance, and without the fatiguing treble of the EX. it does have a great large soundstage for an IEM, but in the earbud world, that size is more common. so in the world of semi-open IEMs, I'd rather put my money on even the same priced earbuds counterpart. muuuch better sound to price ratio in my personal opinion.

when compared to the closed IEMs, especially those with BA or hybrid tech however, then the choice might be more complicated, because they have different sets of weaknesses and strengths

I'm glad I'm not jamming things like that into my ears anymore!

Thanks for the impressions. Actually not, because I am starting to lust for the Samsara's, and that's not a good sign!

I'll have to read back in the thread to see if/when/where they ever go on sale. Maybe 11/11?