[MHOE]

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I'm 95% sure what one of those two headphones will be (coughoneoftheheadphonesinmysignaturecough), no idea what the other one may be though.

 
He-400? I would rather Audio-technica W1000X, Sennheiser HD598 or maybe Fostex T50RP paradox...

 

[preproman]

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He-400? I would rather Audio-technica W1000X, Sennheiser HD598 or maybe Fostex T50RP paradox...

 
Why not the HE-400s?  How do they measure?
 
It seems to be an overwhelming amount of people really liking the HE-400s for some reason.

 

[MHOE]

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Why not the HE-400s?  How do they measure?
 
It seems to be an overwhelming amount of people really liking the HE-400s for some reason.

 
Just because I would gladly recommend anyone to go for HE-500 or HE-6... Especially HE-500 are very very good for their price and could be available used for small amount of money (relatively).
 
How do they measure? Not near HE-500 or HE-6 in terms of balance and technical ability...

 

[preproman]

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Just because I would gladly recommend anyone to go for HE-500 or HE-6...

 
 
I understand.  But do they measure bad or something?

 

[jerg]

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Just because I would gladly recommend anyone to go for HE-500 or HE-6... Especially HE-500 are very very good for their price and could be available used for very affordable price.

 
I'm sorry but that's not a valid argument at all. HE400 is $400 (and $360 on certain websites quite often), while HE500 is always always $700, almost double the cost of HE400s. And HE6 is $1200!
 
They are in entirely different price ranges, maybe cost doesn't matter much to you, but they matter a whole lot to most people in this hobby.  If someone can spend to upwards of $400, are you going to recommend HE500s to them?

 

[TMRaven]

 
Their measurements are atrocious!  I'd never recommend them.

 

[DairyProduce]

I think it'd be interesting to put the HE-400 in to see how they measure up against the high end stuff, seeing as they seem to be a popular choice for mid-range buys. 

 

[MHOE]

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I think it'd be interesting to put the HE-400 in to see how they measure up against the high end stuff, seeing as they seem to be a popular choice for mid-range buys. 

 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE400.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE500.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/HiFiMANHE6.pdf

 

[TMRaven]

He meant measure as in, fair against sonically.  Not how they literally measure up.

 

[MHOE]

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They are in entirely different price ranges, maybe cost doesn't matter much to you, but they matter a whole lot to most people in this hobby.  If someone can spend to upwards of $400, are you going to recommend HE500s to them?

 
Valid point... Up to $400? 
 
I would personally recommend HD600, HD650 or modded T50RP... But I am sure they are head-fiers who have much better knowledge in this area. But IMHO, HD600 or HD650. It depends on prefered music of course... But overally and for long-term quality, these two.

 

[MHOE]

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He meant measure as in, fair against sonically.  Not how they literally measure up.

 
Haha, sry 

 

[MHOE]

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I understand.  But do they measure bad or something?

 
Not badly but I would rather get something else for the price of 400USD... But, for 700USD, HE-500 for sure.

 

[TMRaven]

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Valid point... Up to $400? 
 
I would personally recommend HD600, HD650 or modded T50RP... But I am sure they are head-fiers who have much better knowledge in this area. But IMHO, HD600 or HD650. It depends on prefered music of course... But overally and for long-term quality, these two.

 
 
Now, have you heard the HE-400?

 

[conquerator2]

Well there is not a single HIFIman headphone hated by others From HE-300 through HE-400 and HE-500 as well as the HE-5LE up to HE-6...
 
Even though graphs might tell otherwise, HE-400 is considered a tremendous value (as anything else HIFIman though )

 

[MHOE]

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Now, have you heard the HE-400?

 
No need to hear them...
 
Their measurement is not impressive enough in almost every aspect. In this case (when technical ability is not stunning) I would want the FR graph to be near-to-satisfactory (read balanced) but it is not in the treble especially.
 
But I am not saying they are bad! Just HE-500 are way better and a lot more justify their price without any doubt IMHO...