[Marcos Fontana]

So far I'm really enjoying the RY4S (UE cable). https://bit.ly/2PkCg9c

Rw-9 is a good one and you can get it for $17~19 from AliExpress. It's a slight better than RY4S imho. Qian69 is awesome too.

 

[ClieOS]

Thanks. Great graph -- very useful -- and indeed nothing suspicious in there. I noticed the early treble rolloff (that starts in the upper midrange) and also the good bass extension. What coupler do you use? Did you measure with the foams?

IEC711 equivalent. It is sort of a Taobao DIY coupler but calibrated with a real B&K artificial ear system to ensure decent accuracy. I measured with normal foam.

 

[assassin10000]

Qian 39 = 16.3mm
Qian 69 = 16.8mm
Seahf AWK-F150C = 16.8mm
**** PT15 = 16.35mm
Toneking ROS1 = 14.6mm
VE Monk Plus = 16.9mm

Shozy BK = 16.1mm
Blox B320 = 16.9mm
MX760 Graphene (old version) = 16.95mm

The Heavenly Sounds Genesis and King Interlude, both Willsound Mk1 and 2, ABnormal Duotres, ELi Vajiac, and Earbud Thailand Black Lion are all MX500 shells and measured 16.9mm, though the Lion was 16.8mm. Shell batch size probably varies slightly. I think all of the others I have are probably MX500 shells as well.

PT25: 16.0mm x 17.0mm (at widest angle, directly across opening is 16.7mm, approx. 15mm wide/thick).

ACG (& Ti7): 15.75mm (5.35mm rim width, overall 15.45mm wide/thick).

Old Sony EDR-M828: 17.05mm x 18.00mm (not pictured)

A couple more measurements and a shape comparison.

15.9mm EBX (17.70mm wide/thick)
16.8mm Smabat ST-10 (16.60mm wide/thick)





Top: 16.8mm ST-10, 15.9mm EBX & 15.75mm ACG
Bottom: 16.8mm MX500 & 16.1mm PK shell

 

[TheoS53]

Rw-9 is a good one and you can get it for $17~19 from AliExpress. It's a slight better than RY4S imho. Qian69 is awesome too.

Yeah i was supposed to have both of those by now already, but thanks to my little AE incident I'm gonna have to wait for my refunds to be processed and then I'll place an order (including those buds) from a different seller(s). But I'm glad to hear that the RW-9 is at least somewhat considered as a bit of an upgrade over the RY4S

 

[fairx]

Yeah i was supposed to have both of those by now already, but thanks to my little AE incident I'm gonna have to wait for my refunds to be processed and then I'll place an order (including those buds) from a different seller(s). But I'm glad to hear that the RW-9 is at least somewhat considered as a bit of an upgrade over the RY4S

My rw-9 order also have few hiccups here using local online store that source to China seller. Seems my choice of color not in stock and didn't realize they send me message to change color. But then red back in store and all good. Maybe delay 2-3 days. I should enjoy listening to rw-9 right now if not for the stock problem. Local online store usually ship faster than AE because they have their own warehouse in China.

Just now someone ask me in PM about old topic of all rounder earbud. Although I don't have many earbud as others here I'd like to mention that nowadays I've been using Docomo (long stem) as my daily earbud wether watching Anime / movies or listening to music. In some way it's even more balance than anything else I own, sibilance free except when it's in the song and most important, doesn't sound thin at all even without foam. They sound just right. Can stand higher volume, very open sounding and holographic vocal with many good recordings. They also excel in Japanese recordings the only weakness is early roll in bass starting around 100hz. But whatever it can reproduce it will reproduce brilliantly.

Edit. Its quite detailed but not micro detail level.

Very hard to get if you're outside South East Asia I believe

Cheers

 

[doldoy]

So far I'm really enjoying the RY4S (UE cable). https://bit.ly/2PkCg9c

Thanks!

Rw-9 is a good one and you can get it for $17~19 from AliExpress. It's a slight better than RY4S imho. Qian69 is awesome too.

Can Qian69 be considered allrounder ? I heard some people said it's strong in vocal (mid?) side.

 

[alias71]

I don't know the Toneking but tested the Smabat: good depth but a metallic sound with horrendous sibilance and unnatural, metallic voices. I also don't know how the shells should keep in my ears: ergonomic horror. Since the left MMCX connector is loose, I'll return it at my own cost. Although it is a "free" review unit, sometimes even free is unaffordable..and mood killing.

In comparison, the much cheaper ISN Audio Rambo made me hang on to a relatively boring Chopin cello sonata because of its natural timbre...vs. the sterile sounding Smabat.

And once I am done with the Rambo, I'll retire from earbuds as they are a general design flaw, considering the wrong angle between transducer and ear canal.

Interesting... Also the Smabat ST-10 I received 3 days ago has a loose MMCX connector on the right earbud with sound that cuts off at any movement of the cable.
Sound is OK though. Patricia Barber (my favorite female Jazz singer) has a nice and natural voice.

 

[Marcos Fontana]

Thanks!


Can Qian69 be considered allrounder ? I heard some people said it's strong in vocal (mid?) side.

For me it's really well balanced. I forgot to mention that you can get the Sabia too. But you need to hurry up. It's the last batch. I strongly recommend the Sabia:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Elibuds-Sa...m=223489018685&_trksid=p2054502.c100227.m3827

You can't go wrong with it.

 

[LetheFB]

Hi mates

I have pulled the triger and bought a smabat st-10. I am impressed from the first listen, but when i have changed the stock cable(actually, whenever i change the cable) sound dissappears for a short time when i handle the earphone to sit it better to my ears. I think that the connector is loose on both sides. Do you have such an experience like me?

 

[alias71]

Hi mates

I have pulled the triger and bought a smabat st-10. I am impressed from the first listen, but when i have changed the stock cable(actually, whenever i change the cable) sound dissappears for a short time when i handle the earphone to sit it better to my ears. I think that the connector is loose on both sides. Do you have such an experience like me?

Just two posts above yours!

 

[sareer007]

Can anyone compare sabia with diy sr2 ?

 

[ClieOS]

Hi mates

I have pulled the triger and bought a smabat st-10. I am impressed from the first listen, but when i have changed the stock cable(actually, whenever i change the cable) sound dissappears for a short time when i handle the earphone to sit it better to my ears. I think that the connector is loose on both sides. Do you have such an experience like me?

Does it happens to both stock and aftemarket cable or just the aftermarket cable? If it is the later then it is not a loose socket but more likely an incompatibility between the cable's mmcx plug and the socket, i.e. difference in tolerance.

 

[Marcos Fontana]

Can anyone compare sabia with diy sr2 ?

My Sabia was stolen with my ES100 and some other stuff like my notebook. From memory, it had more mid bass (the amount that I really appreciate) and sounds more natural than sr2 (parhaps I need to burn in it more) for me. It was one of my favorite earbuds. The sound signature is really fun and addictive.

 

[mbwilson111]

sounds more natural than sr2 (parhaps I need to burn in it more)

I think it was recommended we burn the SR2 in for 100 - 200 hours. I think I did.

 

[darmanastartes]

Thanks!


Can Qian69 be considered allrounder ? I heard some people said it's strong in vocal (mid?) side.

Qian69 are my favorite of the three earbuds I have (Qian69, Monk Espresso, Nicehck EB2), but I wouldn't call them vocal-focused, they sound very V-shaped to me.