Earbuds Round-Up
Jul 18, 2021 at 3:03 AM Post #56,296 of 75,463
Without more information it is JUST a guess; but from the fact that when the one has issues, then after that the second one does funky stuff, it sounds almost like a ground issue. It could be as you say an issue with both female MMXC connectors.

If they are too loose in there it might also cause this, which can be fixed with a flat-head screwdriver (in most cases). Here is a video and tutorial on how to fix that issue (if it is because it is loose).

Did this to my left mmcx connector, it was much harder to push in the mmcx . But once i did, I can still spin around the earbud 360 degree easily.
However, 30mins in, I haven't face the issue I mentioned.

I'll observe for abit longer but hope this fixes the issue, thanks!
 
Jul 18, 2021 at 3:11 AM Post #56,297 of 75,463
Did this to my left mmcx connector, it was much harder to push in the mmcx . But once i did, I can still spin around the earbud 360 degree easily.
However, 30mins in, I haven't face the issue I mentioned.

I'll observe for abit longer but hope this fixes the issue, thanks!
Great to hear! 🤞
 
Jul 18, 2021 at 3:31 AM Post #56,299 of 75,463
Guys, I welcome everyone! Tell me I liked very much k's K300 (now the main headphones), and ps 100-260, but I want a better sound. What to choose:

Ep09
k's BellLBs
Yinman 150
Your option
First read this post by Mr @WoodyLuvr
Then make another post where you can explain what you're exactly looking for
 
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Jul 18, 2021 at 3:37 AM Post #56,300 of 75,463
Guys, I welcome everyone! Tell me I liked very much k's K300 (now the main headphones), and ps 100-260, but I want a better sound. What to choose:

Ep09
k's BellLBs
Yinman 150
Your option
Ok
Happy hardcore music, source Huawei 8x phone
I usually listen without attachments. I like the sound of the ksk300, I think it's a V-shaped sound with a good middle.
 
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Jul 18, 2021 at 3:43 AM Post #56,301 of 75,463
Ok
Happy hardcore music, source Huawei 8x phone
I usually listen without attachments. I like the sound of the ksk300, I think it's a V-shaped sound with a good middle.
If you expect a good recommendation, you have to try a little harder. :wink:
This is a really nice template which can help you
For example when asking for a flathead earbud recommendation the following data is extremely helpful:
  • source (DAC/AMP/DAP/PC/smartphone)
  • preferred connection (termination type; single-end vs balanced)
  • listening level & time (volume and for how long)
  • listening environment (mobile/office desk/home desktop/listening room)
  • preferred sound signature (bright; flat–neutral; balanced–naturalsmooth; dark–warm; extra bass–bassy; LUV-shaped)
  • preferred genre (rock, heavy metal, pop, classical, OST, hip-hop, R&B, Korean-Pop, EDM, podcasts, audiobooks, etc.)
  • preferred shell type (depends on your ears and personal comfort; please see here)
  • price range (probably the most important; what are you willing to spend?)
 
Jul 18, 2021 at 4:13 AM Post #56,303 of 75,463
Jul 18, 2021 at 4:35 AM Post #56,304 of 75,463
A few years ago, I bought the RAP and Zen Lite bundle for $100, if I wanted the Warp Core, it would cost extra, maybe another $50.

So now, Zen 2.0 SLQ + RAP5 + Warp Core for $200, that is one hell of a deal.
Congrats :beerchug:
How do you like the RAP? Which version it is?
Do you have the tech specs for it by any chance?
 
Jul 18, 2021 at 4:50 AM Post #56,305 of 75,463
It's almost "next week".
I'm looking forward to your comparison of the ShoonTH Esep-01Bl, LBBS and Zen LL.
The package with the buds is a little delayed, I expect it should arrive in 3 days.
In the meantime I will share my impressions of PT2021 365Ω vs Zen LL.
 
Jul 18, 2021 at 4:52 AM Post #56,306 of 75,463
Guys, I welcome everyone! Tell me I liked very much k's K300 (now the main headphones), and ps 100-260, but I want a better sound. What to choose:

Ep09
k's BellLBs
Yinman 150
Your option
Source: smartphone
Perfered connection: 3,5
Listening volume: 70 from 100
Listening time: 30...40 min
Listening environment: Home
Preferred sound signature: Like k's K300 or ps100-260, V
Preferred genre: happy hardcore, eurodance
Price range: 57 dollars
 
Jul 18, 2021 at 4:59 AM Post #56,307 of 75,463
Took some quick measurements of my new K's LB copper cable w/mic (2021 build date/serial) vs my K's LB white with what appears to be SPC cable (2020 build date/serial).

Ks LB 20 vs 21.jpg

8k spike is coupler resonance. 1k normalization.


Originally I was looking to see if the mic cable caused any major channel imbalance... I found it did not.
 
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Jul 18, 2021 at 5:33 AM Post #56,308 of 75,463

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Jul 18, 2021 at 6:06 AM Post #56,309 of 75,463
How do you like the RAP? Which version it is?
Do you have the tech specs for it by any chance?

I don't have too much experience with portable amps, the RAP (version unknown) is the only one I have so got nothing else to compare it to. But it seems quite neutral, it does not appear to color the sound.

In the case of driving the Zen Lite (300Ω), the volume knob has a starting position at 7 o'clock, for normal listening, the 9 o'clock position should be fine for most music. For a few of my very quiet classical recordings I only need to push it to 11 o'clock.

My only complaint is that the amp is on the bulky side, if you look at other portable amps from Fiio, they look quite slim at half the height. And if you have the Warp Core then the height is doubled when they are stacked together.

RUNABOUT(RA) is Venture Electronics' first portable amp. It is a classical OP + BUF design with two gain settings (Low Gain=3.4X, High Gain=5.7X). The output voltage swing is 3V RMS. Driving 32ohm@ 150mW and 300ohm@ 55mW, it is designed to work with most dynamic driver based earphones and headphones.

RA uses a single 9V battery (6F22 type), DC to DC voltage boost, replaced by a virtual grounds / 3 channel headphone amp design. This is a very classic design and has been implemented in many successful amps from various established brands. While using TLE2426 as the power managing chip, we chose BUF634 to be RA's buffer & isolation chip. Not only it can effectively solve the capacitive load caused by self-excited oscillation and related issues, it also became the solid foundation of the implementing high-current OP / BUF for the amp section.

The amp section consists of 2 x JRC4556AD, a low voltage, high output current OPA chip. Along with its input stage BJT design (similar to more popular OPA chips like OPA2604, OPA2132, etc.), this design offers less background noise and increased stability with low impedance audio source. RA uses a large negative feedback loop, and resistors are added between the OPA chips to regulate and isolate the current. The added bead design in the output section further ensures its stability.

The Warp core can not be charged and power the Amplifier in the same time. It will damage the battery. Please use the DC to power Amplifier when you charge the Warp core.

Model: RunAbout Plus
Connector Complement: 1×3.5mm stereo jack for Input 1×3.5mm stereo jack for Output 1×DC005 power jack for DC adapter
Frequency Response: 20Hz-20KHz,±0.3dB
Maximum Current Output: 0.07A
Maximum Voltage Output: 2.6V RMS/5.3V RMS(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack} )
Maximum Power Output,32ohm: 150mW RMS per channel/150mW RMS per channel(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack})
Maximum Power Output,300ohm: 20mW RMS per channel/90mW RMS per channel(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack})
Maximum Power Output,600ohm: 10mW RMS per channel/50mW RMS per channel(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack})
THD: ≤0.05%,20Hz-20KHz,1V RMS
IMD: ≤0.06%,1V RMS
SNR: ≥94dB,1V RMS,unweighted,gain=10.5dB
Crosstalk: ≥90dB,20Hz-20KHz
Output Impedance: 0.7ohm
Gain: 3.35(10.5dB),5.7(15.1dB)
Topology: OP+BUF,precision virtual ground reference,isolated power supply
Power Supply: 1×9V 6F22 Battery,or 18V DC adapter
Power Consumption: 0.072W
Size: 4.33×2.83×1.06(in)
Weight: 200g(without battery)
 
Jul 18, 2021 at 6:42 AM Post #56,310 of 75,463
I don't have too much experience with portable amps, the RAP (version unknown) is the only one I have so got nothing else to compare it to. But it seems quite neutral, it does not appear to color the sound.

In the case of driving the Zen Lite (300Ω), the volume knob has a starting position at 7 o'clock, for normal listening, the 9 o'clock position should be fine for most music. For a few of my very quiet classical recordings I only need to push it to 11 o'clock.

My only complaint is that the amp is on the bulky side, if you look at other portable amps from Fiio, they look quite slim at half the height. And if you have the Warp Core then the height is doubled when they are stacked together.

RUNABOUT(RA) is Venture Electronics' first portable amp. It is a classical OP + BUF design with two gain settings (Low Gain=3.4X, High Gain=5.7X). The output voltage swing is 3V RMS. Driving 32ohm@ 150mW and 300ohm@ 55mW, it is designed to work with most dynamic driver based earphones and headphones.

RA uses a single 9V battery (6F22 type), DC to DC voltage boost, replaced by a virtual grounds / 3 channel headphone amp design. This is a very classic design and has been implemented in many successful amps from various established brands. While using TLE2426 as the power managing chip, we chose BUF634 to be RA's buffer & isolation chip. Not only it can effectively solve the capacitive load caused by self-excited oscillation and related issues, it also became the solid foundation of the implementing high-current OP / BUF for the amp section.

The amp section consists of 2 x JRC4556AD, a low voltage, high output current OPA chip. Along with its input stage BJT design (similar to more popular OPA chips like OPA2604, OPA2132, etc.), this design offers less background noise and increased stability with low impedance audio source. RA uses a large negative feedback loop, and resistors are added between the OPA chips to regulate and isolate the current. The added bead design in the output section further ensures its stability.

The Warp core can not be charged and power the Amplifier in the same time. It will damage the battery. Please use the DC to power Amplifier when you charge the Warp core.

Model: RunAbout Plus
Connector Complement: 1×3.5mm stereo jack for Input 1×3.5mm stereo jack for Output 1×DC005 power jack for DC adapter
Frequency Response: 20Hz-20KHz,±0.3dB
Maximum Current Output: 0.07A
Maximum Voltage Output: 2.6V RMS/5.3V RMS(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack} )
Maximum Power Output,32ohm: 150mW RMS per channel/150mW RMS per channel(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack})
Maximum Power Output,300ohm: 20mW RMS per channel/90mW RMS per channel(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack})
Maximum Power Output,600ohm: 10mW RMS per channel/50mW RMS per channel(with 16.8v warp core {external rechargeable battery pack})
THD: ≤0.05%,20Hz-20KHz,1V RMS
IMD: ≤0.06%,1V RMS
SNR: ≥94dB,1V RMS,unweighted,gain=10.5dB
Crosstalk: ≥90dB,20Hz-20KHz
Output Impedance: 0.7ohm
Gain: 3.35(10.5dB),5.7(15.1dB)
Topology: OP+BUF,precision virtual ground reference,isolated power supply
Power Supply: 1×9V 6F22 Battery,or 18V DC adapter
Power Consumption: 0.072W
Size: 4.33×2.83×1.06(in)
Weight: 200g(without battery)
Excellent! This is the info that Lee refuses to share with me. I wonder why?
My current favorite amp for high impedance buds is E1DA PowerDAC, which is a completely different design being fully digital. It is also about 30% of size and weight of the RAP.
The PowerDAC sounds great, so I wonder if I would possibly like the RAP sound even more...
 
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