[twiceboss]

Hello bass lovers, anyone tried pair your headphones with Subpac M2?

 

[LouisArmstrong]

Hawaii dude - can you set up a ranking for portable amps? I just wonder whether there is anything crazier than the iFi micro - if not I will just get it (I currently use Cayin C5). 

 

[chillaxing]

  Hawaii dude - can you set up a ranking for portable amps? I just wonder whether there is anything crazier than the iFi micro - if not I will just get it (I currently use Cayin C5). 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/793087/the-best-portable-amp-for-bass-is-the-extreme-basshead-club
 
the micro is a great amp, but bulky and no boost.  Well,the boost isn't the greatest... i don't even use it.  what we do is use the power on hand and a lot of eq work to make our sets go crazy.
 
 
what you saw with the Technics was done with eq and probably about 3w out of the 4w that the micro pushes

 

[leo5111]

the Technics, how do they stand up to the M-audio q40 Bass slam wise? and mids/highs as well?

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  Hawaii dude - can you set up a ranking for portable amps? I just wonder whether there is anything crazier than the iFi micro - if not I will just get it (I currently use Cayin C5). 

Like chilly said,
 The iFi is pure power and you paint an eq with the power. The C5 has a hardware bass boost that is pretty damn great. I like the eq tweaking so the iDSD is for me. If folks want some help via bass boost switches the C5 is better for them

 

[HiyakeIchirou]

 
Like chilly said,
 The iFi is pure power and you paint an eq with the power. The C5 has a hardware bass boost that is pretty damn great. I like the eq tweaking so the iDSD is for me. If folks want some help via bass boost switches the C5 is better for them

Long time no see Hawaiibadboy.

I went with the Fiio E12 instead because the C5 was harder to get in my country. It does have a +22db bass boost if you max out the gain at +15db plus the hardware bass switch which gives another +6 ~+7 bass boost? 

In my S6 I use PowerAmp and bump the bass to give that thump I want. The alpha release of PowerAmp works better than the stable release IMO.

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  Long time no see Hawaiibadboy.

I went with the Fiio E12 instead because the C5 was harder to get in my country. It does have a +22db bass boost if you max out the gain at +15db plus the hardware bass switch which gives another +6 ~+7 bass boost? 

In my S6 I use PowerAmp and bump the bass to give that thump I want. The alpha release of PowerAmp works better than the stable release IMO.

 Long time no see bro!
 
The bass video channel was built using the FiiO e12.
It is outstanding.
My main bass set is the SZ and the Cayin makes it sound a bit wider and less compact.
I actually only use the iFi iDSD micro now but the Fiio e12 is the Original Basshead portable amp.

 

[expontherise]

I was going to get the cayin c5 tomorrow as a birthday present to myself haha (aug 5th, so a bit early but why not!) 

Just a question.. I use a Galaxy S6.. I wont be using it for any other source most likely unless its another android phone in the future (and 99% would be a Samsung)
With that said, is there any reason I should opt for the DAC model? Or just go with the raw amp?

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  With that said, is there any reason I should opt for the DAC model? Or just go with the raw amp?

I use a Note 4 and would never use the headphone out. **** ton of noise out that way and then that gets amped.
The dac/amp will be USB/OTG and much better sound IMO. That being amped is much better than out the headphone unless it has gotten much better than when I tried with my Note.

 

[vapman]

Agreed 100% if you're gonna use a phone get a separate dac or you're gonna be hearing a lot of unwanted buzz & squelch from the antennas.

Even a cheapo dac will help as long as it is shielded, if it's not electrically shielded you'll still be picking up noise

 

[HiFiGuy528]

I put the new Focal Elear in this thread. Hits HARD for an open hp.
 

 

[LouisArmstrong]

  I put the new Focal Elear in this thread. Hits HARD for an open hp.
 

Pretty awesome stuff you got there.

 

[Jiexi]

  I put the new Focal Elear in this thread. Hits HARD for an open hp.
 

Haha the unforgiving glasses struggle for the poor guy behind you.

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  I put the new Focal Elear in this thread. Hits HARD for an open hp.
 
 

 
Please don't randomly name drop your favorite new HP that is looking for advertisement.
 
That thing is stupid expensive and it is not extreme bass.
 
I will paypal you $50 if you do a simple little bass paper test that shows some action that would make it seem like this is the thread for that HP.
 
$50
 
Take my money. I ain't joking.

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

     What are the best bass headphones? 

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This is the hunt for the "Top 10" Bass headphones on the consumer market. 
The list will be compiled and based on identical set-ups (or similar) and tracks with identical Eq sloping/boosting.
 
 

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TOP 10 July 2016​

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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1. J.V.C HA-SZ2000

 
 

 
 

 

 

 

 

Driver size: 55mm "Sub-woofer"/ 30mm CNT  

Impedance:16 Ohm
Amp Headroom: Exceptional +30dB @45Hz
EQ: Needs
Genre' (anything)
Weakness: Veiled , Poor stock pads.

 

 

DAP: COWON iAudio10
 
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%
 
 

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2. FOSTEX TH900

 

 

Driver size: 50mm dia Nd magnet

 
Impedance 25 Ohm
Amp Headroom: 
 
EQ: Needs (raise bass only)
Genre' Anything
Weakness:...Price?

 

 

 

 

AP: COWON iAudio10  
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%


 
 
 
 
 
 

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3. Sony XB1000

 

 
 
 
 
 
 

 

Driver size: 70mm Mylar (PET) 

Impedance 24 Ohm
Amp Headroom: ?
EQ: Needs 
Genre' (HipHop/EDM/?)
Weaknessillow pads absorb too much of the hit.

 

 

 
DAP: COWON iAudio10
 
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%
 
 
 
 
 

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4. J.V.C HA-SZ1000   

 

 
 

 
 
 

 

Driver size: 55mm "Sub-woofer"/ 30mm CNT                                                                                                        

 
 

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Impedance 16 Ohm
Amp Headroom: Exceptional +30dB @45Hz
EQ: Needs
Genre' (anything)
Weakness: less veiled than sz2k but veiled , Poor stock pads.  


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DAP: ipad  
EQ:
"Equalizer" app
42Hz Q 1.000 +7.9dB
51Hz Q 1.000 +7.7dB
78Hz Q 5.000 +2.8dB
 
   
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%

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5. FOSTEX TH600 / MassDrop TH-X00      

                  

 

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Driver size: Driver:50mm dia Nd magnet / bio-dynamic diaphragm

  Impedance 25 Ohm
Amp Headroom: 
EQ: Needs (raise bass only)
Genre' Anything

  Weakness:.

 
 
 (for TH600 below)
 
AP: COWON iAudio10
 
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%
 
For TH-X00

1. Source

Apple iPhone 6S Plus
 
EQ
Equalizer App by Audioforge Labs
20 Hz  Q=0.308  10.00 dB
63 Hz Q=0.545 14.00 dB
156 Hz  Q=1.000  6.00 dB
 
DAC/AMP
Chord Mojo
Bass Boost N/A
Gain Switch N/A

 

 

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6.Technics RP-DH1250

 

 

Driver size: Driver:50mm mylar P.E.T

  Impedance 50 Ohm
Amp Headroom: Enormous
EQ: Needs (raise bass only)
Genre' Anything

 
 
 

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7. JVC HA-MR77x

 
 

 

 
 

 

 

 

Driver size: 57mm Mylar (PET)

 
Impedance 46 Ohm
Amp Headroom: Good/Great 16-20dB @45Hz
 
EQ: Needs (to raise mids)
Genre' (Hip-Hop)
Weakness: mids sound like ass.

 

DAP: COWON iAudio10
 
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%
 



 



 

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8. HPH Yamaha Pro 500

 

Driver size: 50mm Mylar (PET)

 
Impedance 23 Ohm
Amp Headroom: ?
EQ: Needs (raise bass only)
Genre' (Anything)
Weaknessad size (shallow)

 

DAP: COWON iAudio10
 
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%

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9.Audio Technica -ATH Pro700mk2

 

 

Driver size: 53mm Mylar (PET)

 
Impedance 68 Ohm
Amp Headroom: ?
EQ: Needs (raise bass only)
Genre' (Anything)
Weaknessad size (shallow)

 

DAP: COWON iAudio10
 
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%
 

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10. V-MODA Crossfade M-100

 

 

 

Driver size: 50mm Mylar (PET)

 
Impedance 32 Ohm
Amp Headroom: ?
EQ: Needs (raise bass only)
Genre' (Anything)
Weaknessad size (shallow)

 

DAP: COWON iAudio10
 
EQ:
5 Band (Flat)
 
JetEffects :
BBE+8
Mach3Bass +9
Volume: 34
 
 
AMP: FiiO e12
 
Bass Boost "on"
Gain switch "on"
Vol 50-60%
 
 

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Configurations used

 
 
 
 

1. Source

Cowon iAudio10
flat eq,
Mach3Bass +9
BBE+8
 
AMP
Fiio E12 - 16db gain,
bass boost on,
 
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1. Source

Sony NWZ E473
Clear Bass +3,
flat eq,
 
AMP
Fiio E12 - 16db gain,
bass boost on,
 
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1. Source

Apple Ipad
App - "Equalizer",
eq,
42Hz Q 1.000 +7.9dB
51Hz Q 1.000 +7.7dB
78Hz Q 5.000 +2.8dB
 
AMP
Fiio E12 - 16db gain,
bass boost on,
 
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1. Source

Apple iPhone 6S Plus
 
EQ
Equalizer App by Audioforge Labs
20 Hz  Q=0.308  10.00 dB
63 Hz Q=0.545 14.00 dB
156 Hz  Q=1.000  6.00 dB
 
DAC/AMP
Chord Mojo
Bass Boost N/A
Gain Switch N/A
 
   

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Notes & Thoughts

 
 
 
The bass paper test is just a visual of what is heard and felt on ear.  It's pretty damn accurate. The cans you think will do well usually do and the ones that you don't think will... often don't.  
Thanks to the folks that participate and take the time to show new ways to get to basstopia.
If I had a set of cans that hit harder than one on the list I'd do it in a heartbeat, share the exact settings and let my vid replace 500 words of stuff already said about can "A".
 
If you can lounge around threads talking about not too much really... you could put a face to the bass. I'll eventually get to em' anyway .
 
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Oh I'm not playing that game...it's dumb
 
or
 
**plays dumb game...kicks major azz .....and waaaalks away laughing**
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I'd do the 2nd one cuz I'm competitive like that.
 
 
Folks..
There wasn't a wiki or a list to even argue about much less anyone even trying to be creative with an easy to mimic way of showing low energy force.  Nada. Just words.
 
If you disagree with the list be a productive member and shave 5 minutes off your life showing something.  If you're not a basshead you should just enjoy the view. I don't troll Stax threads or any other thread that is not in my range of interest. This thread is 149 pages of non flaming and name calling. It's been great sans 4 events and one needed a mod and 3 were worked out among adults and self edited. If you have a bad moment I'll ask you to get a hold of yourself
(it happens...we all get wound up sometimes) if you don't edit I'll flag ya and the folks who need to know ...they know this thread is clean. It will stay that way. You have the tracks and EXACT settings from multiple hardware sources.

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This is a collection of the hardest hitting cans. Nothing more.
Nobody is claiming anything besides the fact that these 10 will thump your head.
There are no links provided. We do not do sales by proxy. Find your own links.
You proceed with the knowledge that nothing is better than a personal listening experience.
 
 
Q) Who listens to headphones like this?
A) If you're wondering,.... probably not you.
 
Q) Who are you?
A) I'm a former Car Audio IASCA dB drag competitor. I am pure-breed basshead. I'm used to measuring things. Words like "Cannon" mean nothing to me without some visual proof.
Low frequency audio signals will give you that visual.
Charts, and words like separation,staging, are not of interest to me. A typical mastered Hip-Hop track is going to live along the "V" response anyway.
 
 
Q) Why?
A) Because nobody else is. (simple answer). Also because it's fun.
I'm a basshead.
There is room enough on Head-fi for everyone. We do our thing.
 
B) Low frequency audio signals
using no more than a portable amp and DAP can deliver a vibration to the head that can be felt.
Well...if that's true....and it is  (that you can feel it) then that sensation can be captured...on video. You don't need to ask anyone. You don't need to listen to stuff like "smashes my skull" "melts my face" etc etc. Just look.  The driver size, the pad type, the amount of energy (amp) are all relevant.  The gear and settings are ALWAYS shared. That should be the default for anyone who rec's bass cans. 
 
I came to Head-fi with one goal.
Hardest hitters are????
Which ones again?
 
Exactly.
 
If anyone did answer they never gave the equipment, the track, the settings

. Useless. How can I follow that? 
 
Guy comes on and claims the Yamaha Pro 500 need to be on the Wiki "Cannon" section.
 
Oh really?
 
Show me.
 
He does.
 
Now they are.
 
From the moment of claim to visual proof captured and uploaded took under 25 minutes.
 
Think about that. His claim to a prove on a public forum in a thread devoted to that...confirmed in 25 minutes.
 
How long has Youtube been around? How long have decent portable cams on phones been available? 
 
 
Put the french up or shut the french up. It's too frenching easy.
 
 
 
 

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