[Kyonnie]

Thanks for your thoughts! I should also mention I'm most of all into gaming, and I turned to Yincrow's very open design because I have severe autoimmune ear inflammation from a rare disease called Relapsing Polychondritis. So headphones and deep IEM's are too painful, while the Yincrows are not (went through half a dozen high-end IEM's before a redditor said I should check out Yincrow). Since you said it's mostly down to signature preference, I wonder which signature between Yincrow rw-2000, 3000, 4000 will end up being most ideal for gaming and movie watching. Music is great too, but lower priority for me.

I suppose audio immersion* in games are what I most enjoy, since I'm not competitive and usually into story games. I also bought Dolby Atmos for Headphones to simulate surround sound in games when possible!

I play competitive and played pro for some time, and I use earbuds most of the time when playing casually. I haven't tested the RW-4000, but I have tried both the RW-2000 and RW-3000. In my opinion, both of them are great for gaming, but if I'm going to choose one, I will get the RW-3000. And maybe play around with your sound settings lol.

 

[cqtek]

So i just found out that wearing my earbuds like this make a bight and day difference, everything becomes better and more balanced oh and the bass.. holographic impactful, amazing, none of my over ear headphones and iems come even close.

Now the problem is that for long sessions my ear starts to hurt because it presses against my ear cartilage. Any shell recommendations that can be worn iem style comfortably without pain?

I too have always sought to find alternative positions in order to gain in seriousness and transparency. The horizontal position is the one that has given me the best results, because it opens up the channel and offers a closer contact with it, making the bass more powerful, either because of that same close contact or because of the greater proximity to the channel. It is true that it is a setting that is not very comfortable for long sessions and that it is somewhat complicated to find the right spot. It is not too stable either. But that's how I usually use the earbuds when I'm at my desk.

And yes, there are some earbuds that are specially shaped for downward use, like the IEMS.

 

[Kyonnie]

So i just found out that wearing my earbuds like this make a bight and day difference, everything becomes better and more balanced oh and the bass.. holographic impactful, amazing, none of my over ear headphones and iems come even close.

Now the problem is that for long sessions my ear starts to hurt because it presses against my ear cartilage. Any shell recommendations that can be worn iem style comfortably without pain?

You can find cut MX500 shells or you can cut them yourself if you want. There's also bell and bellhorn metal shells on Ali that I find very comfortable in that position.

 

[SlhDub]

You can find cut MX500 shells or you can cut them yourself if you want. There's also bell and bellhorn metal shells on Ali that I find very comfortable in that position.

Awsome thanks, i will try some of these bell shape. Do you have some Ali links?

 

[SlhDub]

Shorten the steam vent and put some mmcx connectors to make it look better

custom paint job and everything

 

[mt877]

Thanks for finding a review! I used DeepL to translate:


--------- [Star Cow Descends! --------- Subjective Experience Report on RW4000 (Star Cow)

Thanks, both Google and DeepL translation is roughly the same, a few word changes here and there. I'm just glad to have found the review and that an AI translation to English is enough to get the review thoughts across.

sivga is good, but not for your liking. it is a very warm and bassy earbud with a very 2d soundstage without depth. i would suggest trying out the much overlooked fiio em5 which might also be to warm for you or maybe the moondrop chaconne, which has a lighter very detailed signature.

EM5 is still one of my favorites too.

Still don't understand the difference with RW-3000 or RW-2000. Plenty of poetry...

I think the reviewer is saying the overall clarity is better (RW-4000 vs RW-3000), but that is just my guess. I don't think the reviewer indicates RW-2000 at all. I wish someone could do a real translation rather then AI language translation, but something is better than nothing.

 

[mt877]

Enjoying a morning with buds, I am working on a DAP review. Had fun seeing how the new R8 II could handle the 300ohm Zen 3.0, is it perfect? no, but close enough so the dynamics and note thickness is full. So for me good enough when not at the desktop amplifiers.

Now I'm getting slowly to know the @FranQL Black Panther + Clan Audio cable for it. My friend @Charlyro222 had it hostage for a month

Another good bud from my hermano, nice third weel beside my Blue Moon and the Caelum.

Is that the "make a deal with the devil" (LOL) earbuds that @Charlyro222 was advertising in Nov. 2023?

Spoiler

 

[Leonarfd]

Is that the "make a deal with the devil" (LOL) earbuds that @Charlyro222 was advertising in Nov. 2023?

Spoiler

Haha not that one, not sure how that project is going on. Fran's testing can take a while to find something he is satisfied with. *

This is a model he made to match his prog rock/metal, would say it is a success. Has a clear sound with good note weight and well extended treble, midrange a little back compared to something like his Blue Moon. And also less bass than Caelum, so the sound is very open and clear. Slight U shaper perhaps.

 

[sunsun89]

I too have always sought to find alternative positions in order to gain in seriousness and transparency. The horizontal position is the one that has given me the best results, because it opens up the channel and offers a closer contact with it, making the bass more powerful, either because of that same close contact or because of the greater proximity to the channel. It is true that it is a setting that is not very comfortable for long sessions and that it is somewhat complicated to find the right spot. It is not too stable either. But that's how I usually use the earbuds when I'm at my desk.

And yes, there are some earbuds that are specially shaped for downward use, like the IEMS.

print your own design

 

[SlhDub]

print your own design

I too have always sought to find alternative positions in order to gain in seriousness and transparency. The horizontal position is the one that has given me the best results, because it opens up the channel and offers a closer contact with it, making the bass more powerful, either because of that same close contact or because of the greater proximity to the channel. It is true that it is a setting that is not very comfortable for long sessions and that it is somewhat complicated to find the right spot. It is not too stable either. But that's how I usually use the earbuds when I'm at my desk.

And yes, there are some earbuds that are specially shaped for downward use, like the IEMS.

Problem is that that the outer shell of the driver the round part presses against this cartilage and becomes painful and uncomfortable. I will try more shell designs but im not sure if theres any solution to this other than using smaller driver size and smaller shells inorder to fit under that cartilage.

 

[anli]

Problem is that that the outer shell of the driver the round part presses against this cartilage and becomes painful and uncomfortable. I will try more shell designs but im not sure if theres any solution to this other than using smaller driver size and smaller shells inorder to fit under that cartilage.

Ear adaptation is probable other way.

 

[mt877]

Problem is that that the outer shell of the driver the round part presses against this cartilage and becomes painful and uncomfortable. I will try more shell designs but im not sure if theres any solution to this other than using smaller driver size and smaller shells inorder to fit under that cartilage.

Here's some measurements I made and posted here a while back. The typical MX500 shell has the 2nd largest diameter in my measurements, then add the foam on top of that and it's too big and an uncomfortable fit for your ears. The FiiO FF3 and FF5 are slightly smaller. The Yincrow Calf / Rhino have pretty small diameter, but the king of small diameter is the PK shell coming in at 16.10mm.

The choice of earbuds using the PK shell is limited compared to MX500 shell, but one outstanding bud is the Shozy BK, slightly lower cost version is Shozy BKSE (SE = Special Edition).

Anyway, hope this is helpful.

Yincrow X6 (MX500 shell) - 16.80mm	Yincrow RW-3000 - 16.88mm	Yincrow RW-2000 - 16.88mm	FiiO FF3 - 16.50mm
FiiO FF5 - 16.50mm	Yincrow Calf - 16.32mm	Yincrow Rhino - 16.32mm	Shozy BK (PK shell) - 16.10mm

 

[h8uthemost]

I'd like to get a 16mm driver bud. Do they hit harder then the regular 15.44mm? I've read that they do. But you know , it's the Internets...

But the real reason I wanna get one is to try the bigger shell that holds it. I love the mx500 size, but I could take a bit bigger(I know I know).

 

[kyMal]

represent. never saw this, but had to say RIP

 

[h8uthemost]

These 300 ohm buds have been recommended by others in this thread for years.

And why is that? I've never owned a high impedance phone, and now I feel like I'm missing out on allot.

Is it cuz there's a lot of head room on the 300ohm's that shine more than say a 32ohm?

Like I said I think I'm missing out. So I think may next purchase(geez I got 4 flats coming now) will be the Qigom 300ohm White Lotus since his 32ohm build has been in my ears 95% of the time I'm listening to music.