Why not? Don't wannna' be a "Daisy Downer" here but, I can't say if I am interested unless I know what they are going to cost, or sound like.Shouldnt be a problem if they arent in the same price range.
And I aint saying more about the sound than that either.
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Earbuds Round-Up
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The businesses, how attractive they are, the top secret nasa drivers, the improved signatures, having a reputation, and making money. Okay, I won't criticize anything here. Then wait for a hype... and we already have it! If there was no business there would be no hobby. It is necessary.
an update on the first model per month, how to call it retune, plus, pro, V2, whatever you want...
But if to say, that in a listening of five minutes or five days one cannot proclaim "eureka", the opinion of other people is also useful. It's not all about having 400 graphics... useless, and even less here, in the buds.
Lastly, a Vido or X6 upgrade is a poor claim, at least after hearing other things. It is normal if the recommendation comes from the users, not from the seller himself.
And this is my opinion, maybe I'm your weird type...
an update on the first model per month, how to call it retune, plus, pro, V2, whatever you want...
But if to say, that in a listening of five minutes or five days one cannot proclaim "eureka", the opinion of other people is also useful. It's not all about having 400 graphics... useless, and even less here, in the buds.
Lastly, a Vido or X6 upgrade is a poor claim, at least after hearing other things. It is normal if the recommendation comes from the users, not from the seller himself.
And this is my opinion, maybe I'm your weird type...
Sam L
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home is safe, thankfully. issue was I had more iems and earbuds with me than normal in my backpack, which was stolen (in front of a louis vuitton store!) along with my laptop.@Sam L Dang! You either need to move to a better neighborhood or pay more attention to your IEMs(just noticed your stolen items in your sig)... Sorry to see that!
Vido is the best in its price category ($ 2)
. X6 is very expensive considering that it is the same driver as Vido earbud. Only the cable differs but does not justify the price difference

RikudouGoku
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002799457689.htmlWhat driver are you talking about?
no, I will list the drivers for all the buds I make.You know the drill, it's "top secret" bro.
Probably you never heard about it![]()
its not hard to beat the X6 in technicalities, but not if you want to keep nearly the same tonality.I’ve got to be honest with you:nearlyevery bud I’ve built has actually even an improvement over an X6 and I’ve built a couple dozen with over a dozen drivers that have had multiple tunings each before reaching anything final. Changes verified with quality, realistic measurements all along the way. I think you’ll find as you do more of this that the bar of an X6 upgrade is pretty easy to achieve. I was enamored with my first couple sets as well, but you’ll see, you can get better over time.
I wont talk about the sound much because there of course I will be heavily biased.Why not? Don't wannna' be a "Daisy Downer" here but, I can't say if I am interested unless I know what they are going to cost, or sound like.
Price will be around 50 euro, not set in stone yet but around that price.
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Once you learn exactly how to manipulate the tuning, it’s still easy.its not hard to beat the X6 in technicalities, but not if you want to keep nearly the same tonality.
Sam L
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Hey everyone, how could you let this happen to me? I know we might not know each other that well, but come on, many of you have been in this thread with me -- interacting during the pandemic, finding solace with our hobby. You might recall my super active posting during 2020, which led to me achieving "supremus status" pretty quickly. We even did a virtual "meet up" and talked for hours about all things earbuds and measurements.
for not telling me to get a Koss ksc75 earlier. This thing is amazing. I got the massdrop version, even though I'm not sure what the difference is between the drop version and the stock one. Every earbud fan should have a ksc75.
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Hey everyone, how could you let this happen to me? I know we might not know each other that well, but come on, many of you have been in this thread with me -- interacting during the pandemic, finding solace with our hobby. You might recall my super active posting during 2020, which led to me achieving "supremus status" pretty quickly. We even did a virtual "meet up" and talked for hours about all things earbuds and measurements.
for not telling me to get a Koss ksc75 earlier. This thing is amazing. I got the massdrop version, even though I'm not sure what the difference is between the drop version and the stock one. Every earbud fan should have a ksc75.
Ha ha ha ha! Plenty of mods and pads and headbands to try with the ksc75's:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/kos...ant-killer-in-all-the-hidden-gem-hype.638757/
I like the ksc75 drivers on parts express headband (although the newer kph40 headband with them would be great). Soundwise I prefer the portapro/sportapro drivers on the parts express headband for a bit more bass.
I also love the newer kph30i's, and I really want to get the kph40's (they look great imo, and get lots of hype).
Anyway, welcome to the Koss rabbit hole!
RikudouGoku
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Zero differences from a sound perspective. I believe the drop version has a mic though...for not telling me to get a Koss ksc75 earlier. This thing is amazing. I got the massdrop version, even though I'm not sure what the difference is between the drop version and the stock one. Every earbud fan should have a ksc75.
Yup. I really like KPH30i.Ha ha ha ha! Plenty of mods and pads and headbands to try with the ksc75's:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/kos...ant-killer-in-all-the-hidden-gem-hype.638757/
I like the ksc75 drivers on parts express headband (although the newer kph40 headband with them would be great). Soundwise I prefer the portapro/sportapro drivers on the parts express headband for a bit more bass.
I also love the newer kph30i's, and I really want to get the kph40's (they look great imo, and get lots of hype).
Anyway, welcome to the Koss rabbit hole!
Lightweight and simplistic design makes them one of the most comfortable on-ear headphones. Also, even if they're not that easy to open, with a little patience they can be modified really well where you can improve comfort and the sound .... more spacious - mmcx mod with Grado pads.

What about Koss buds? Any promising model?
Chessnaudio
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Totally in! Very excited for them.Still in my R/D phase when it comes to other lineups/drivers, but at least I have one model I am putting my name on atm.
Still looking for that Moondrop Chaconne alternative/upgrade and another one with more balanced/w-shaped tonality (at least that is the plan atm).
But I do want to ask, how many of you guys would be interested in my buds? So I have an idea on how many drivers I need to order at least...
(particularly the Yincrow X6 upgrade.)
DBaldock9
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I've managed to get a somewhat comfortable, secure-ish, & good sounding fit in my ears, for the Smabat ST-20 earbuds.
Started by using a nice sharp ceramic craft knife, and cutting the fins off of a set of earbud fins - to end up with a set of snug-fitting rings for the ST-20. Then I put two pairs of Hiegi Donut Foams over the rings.
EDIT: I'm still using the (L) & (R) earbuds swapped, and with the cables over-the-ears.
Started by using a nice sharp ceramic craft knife, and cutting the fins off of a set of earbud fins - to end up with a set of snug-fitting rings for the ST-20. Then I put two pairs of Hiegi Donut Foams over the rings.
EDIT: I'm still using the (L) & (R) earbuds swapped, and with the cables over-the-ears.
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I almost did the same thing @DBaldock9 , but I tried @samandhi ’s ear hook idea and I’m sold on it. I’m actually wearing them cable down now with perfect comfort. Not reverse bud cable down though. That definitely requires a different EQ profile. Well actually an EQ isn “required“ like that. I’d still polish it up a bit and add some air.
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Shouldn’t that be a “Debby Downer”? Oh wait, I think that was the sequel to the famous “Debbie” movie from the 70s. down chicka brown cow, or is it bow chicka wow wow?Why not? Don't wannna' be a "Daisy Downer" here but, I can't say if I am interested unless I know what they are going to cost, or sound like.
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