Earbuds Round-Up
Dec 30, 2020 at 1:01 PM Post #51,226 of 75,157
Ebx21 for $100 or less then I'll take them
:) Are you sure? :wink:
NiceHCK initially sold the original EBX model with a simple cable, and later when they started making their own cables,
they made an offer with or without a cable (earbuds only).
It seems to me that EBX21 wants to compete with this model
 
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Dec 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM Post #51,228 of 75,157
Hello to all.

I've been looking for information about OpenHeart earbuds, but I haven't found much here, just some comments about them being generic capsules. Has anyone been able to try them out? They don't look bad.
Thanks in advance.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001180479742.html?
 
Dec 30, 2020 at 1:36 PM Post #51,229 of 75,157
Currently, the most interesting offer, IMO, is S.e.n.f.e.r PT2021 with nice price. If the sound quality is 50% similar to Fiio EM5, it pays off again.
I saw that Fiio included this tool in his flagship package which is very convenient.

Is this the "new kid on the block"?
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001902171423.html
 
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Dec 30, 2020 at 4:16 PM Post #51,230 of 75,157
I keep forgetting to ask did we ever get a final confirmation on the correct specs for ST-10S Black-Gold? I am very curious about this.

I remember there was quite a confusing period there where the advertised specs were saying either 120Ω or 150Ω and then if I recall correctly @DBaldock9 after testing discovered that his pair had an impedance of 300Ω or higher. I too have seriously questioned and doubt the given 150Ω impedance and 110 dB/mW sensitivity rating and do believe that mine are closer to 300Ω with a sensitivity maybe in the mid to high 90s only.

If they are indeed 150Ω / 110 dB/mW it doesn't explain at all why they sound better (less anemic) when amp'd as 110 dB SPL can be easily reached with only 0.39 volts; a current of only 2.58 mA; and require power of only 1 mW which is available from nearly all mobile sources that I can think of.

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But if the impedance is indeed much higher and the sensitivity much lower this would then explain the need for them to be amp'd... I created this scenario as follows:

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This was definitely intriguing. I definitely hear a difference between my iPad Pro and Oppo HA2se (both 1 Vrms, though latter puts at 30mW into 300 ohm). Bass is noticeably less prominent and treble thinner with the former. I'm surprised as I always was of the belief that amp-ing was primarily for loudness. Kudos to baskingshark for emphasizing how a big of a difference amp made. It really makes these come alive.
 
Dec 30, 2020 at 6:31 PM Post #51,232 of 75,157
Hello to all.

I've been looking for information about OpenHeart earbuds, but I haven't found much here, just some comments about them being generic capsules. Has anyone been able to try them out? They don't look bad.
Thanks in advance.

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001180479742.html?
It's a bit strange. First of all these buds are assembled from DIY parts that can be found in few stores on Ali. This version of OPENHEART is exactly the same as this DIY bud on CKLewis Audio Store. They make a typo for sensitivity. It's 105dB and not 99dB.
The same driver is used for the version that you posted (shells). I can't find these 32ohm graphene drivers anywhere that can be purchased separately except 68ohm, 400ohm and 500ohm. There is another 220ohm "branded" version here.
I own only 400ohm graphene driver. This is my build. 500ohm have similar freq. graph like 600ohm beryllium and 68ohm is a relatively new driver.
 
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Dec 31, 2020 at 1:47 AM Post #51,233 of 75,157
I have a smabat m2 pro with drivers from st10s black gold. I measured the resistance and I have 156 ohms.
@buzzyman Thank you for sharing that. I have a feeling that there may have been a huge variance with driver impedance on the initial run as I finally found @DBaldock9 's post stating that his were testing @ 300 ohms. Do you have any thoughts regarding the sensitivity rating being much lower than the stated 110 dB/mW? Cheers.
 
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Dec 31, 2020 at 9:17 AM Post #51,234 of 75,157
Happy New Year!
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Dec 31, 2020 at 12:48 PM Post #51,235 of 75,157
@buzzyman Thank you for sharing that. I have a feeling that there may have been a huge variance with driver impedance on the initial run as I finally found @DBaldock9 's post stating that his were testing @ 300 ohms. Do you have any thoughts regarding the sensitivity rating being much lower than the stated 110 dB/mW? Cheers.
It seems to me that the sensitivity of my 150 ohms drivers is slightly lower than 110 db. Because I listen to them on a portable dac Topping nx4 dsd using hi gain. I think the sensitivity is closer to 96 db / mw.
 
Dec 31, 2020 at 3:17 PM Post #51,236 of 75,157
Looks like a new earbud? Xiao fan T2. Ceramic like Diaphragm.
 

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Dec 31, 2020 at 3:34 PM Post #51,237 of 75,157
Dec 31, 2020 at 7:29 PM Post #51,238 of 75,157
New Year, New Gear Recommendation?

For my first purchase this 2021, I'd like to ask some recommendations for earbuds under $20. I had a Red Vido which I unfortunately damaged with an attempt at recabling and a K's Nameless which I still have. Thanks!
 
Dec 31, 2020 at 7:31 PM Post #51,239 of 75,157
New Year, New Gear Recommendation?

For my first purchase this 2021, I'd like to ask some recommendations for earbuds under $20. I had a Red Vido which I unfortunately damaged with an attempt at recabling and a K's Nameless which I still have. Thanks!

Would be good if u could give more info so the community can fine tune recommendations better:

1) Preferred music genres?
2) Preferred sound signature? Neutral, V shaped, midcentric, basshead/bass averse, treblehead/treble sensitive?
3) What source are you using with it? Ie is drivability important?
 
Dec 31, 2020 at 8:09 PM Post #51,240 of 75,157
Would be good if u could give more info so the community can fine tune recommendations better:

1) Preferred music genres?
2) Preferred sound signature? Neutral, V shaped, midcentric, basshead/bass averse, treblehead/treble sensitive?
3) What source are you using with it? Ie is drivability important?
I intentionally left those 2 first questions out as I wanted to receive every possible recommendation. But I forgot about drivability - I prefer those that can be driven by a phone. Thanks.
 

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