Earbuds Round-Up

[droenald]

Thank you for taking the time to read my review, despite it being poor. Nevertheless, I highly recommend Cygnus MK II. Thank you.

Thank you for your review!
And welcome to the earbud roundup thread - you have come to the right place.

 

[smokecrack]

Very glad to hear that they are good for your listening enjoyment. Thanks for your impressions.

I find a high shelf and a low shelf to work well on the RW3000 as well (though i dont use it often, just depends on the source i am usimg at the time). I have done a tone sweep on them, and find that in order to get the sub bass to the same level of the mid bass, I would have to boost 65Hz (roughly) and below, about +12dB to +15dB (that is how quickly it rolls off down there).

For treble, it isn't quite as rolled off, but it is at about +8dB or so to get "linear" with the upper mids/lower treble (not that this set is overly boosted in that area though). If you put a large dip in the 1kHz to 4kHz range, it will sound like there isn't much treble at all (typical of a single DD tuning).

Tried your adjustments to treble and bass and thought it flattened the sound a bit too much but gave it more energy. Though I'll be honest if you set a shelf at +8db, 85hz down it sounds goooooood with bassy tracks.

 

[qua2k]

I have a lovely BLOX TM11 I am letting go. Let me know if any interest

 

[samandhi]

Thank you for taking the time to read my review, despite it being poor. Nevertheless, I highly recommend Cygnus MK II. Thank you.

Nothing poor about it.

Tried your adjustments to treble and bass and thought it flattened the sound a bit too much but gave it more energy. Though I'll be honest if you set a shelf at +8db, 85hz down it sounds goooooood with bassy tracks.

Yeah, i don't doubt it. Even though you would think that +8dB is just that, what i recommended was for Neutron player, and I know from experience that differing apps have a differing sound based on the amount of DSP added/subtracted (e.g. Neutron sounds different to UAPP, which again sounds different to Mango player when using the same additive amount on a specific frequency). Why this is, is beyond me if all things are supposed to be equal. Probably the software algorithms being used for each app.

Either way, I happen to agree that adding that little something with DSP does not hurt these buds.

Though, it might indeed come across as more flattened out to some because we are making the curve more linear with that particular adjustment.

 

[Burustar]

Thank you for your review!
And welcome to the earbud roundup thread - you have come to the right place.

Thank you!!

 

[mt877]

Thank you for taking the time to read my review, despite it being poor. Nevertheless, I highly recommend Cygnus MK II. Thank you.

I saw your post about the Cygnus MK II. The original Cygnus was known as being a bit bassier than the BK Stardust and the BK was considered to be a bit more balanced than the Cygnus. Both MK II versions of these earbuds are supposed to be slightly enhanced, so it would have been very interesting if you were able to compare the Cygnus MK II to the Shozy BK MK II. I have the original BK Stardust which is a great earbud and wonder if getting one of the MK II versions is worthwhile or not.

 

[jogawag]

I saw your post about the Cygnus MK II. The original Cygnus was known as being a bit bassier than the BK Stardust and the BK was considered to be a bit more balanced than the Cygnus. Both MK II versions of these earbuds are supposed to be slightly enhanced, so it would have been very interesting if you were able to compare the Cygnus MK II to the Shozy BK MK II. I have the original BK Stardust which is a great earbud and wonder if getting one of the MK II versions is worthwhile or not.

The graph shows the Shozy Cygnus (Silver-Plated cable) with its shimmering vividness in the high frequencies and the Shozy BK (OCC cable) with its good expression of the vocal range, which is a little closer to the mid-range.
The Shozy Cygnus MkII uses a OFC cable according to Penon Audio.

 

[dykzei]

So I received Temperament DM7 Ti from TheHiFiCat today, wooden box was bit cracked but I'm not into boxes so it's okay

Very basic impressions here

Fit, the earbud has longer stem with 2-pin connector, it's actually same length as 2-pin earbud NiceHCK YDX. I have figured that from product images and hoped it will work over ear with one cable I have, and it's true. On most cables it's too long, but this cable is fine, however I found swapping left & right did it even better fit for me.

Sound: Much louder than DBX almost like RW-4000 where DM7 is 32 ohm, DBX is 30, and RW-4000 is 16 ohm, so it's got crazy sensitivity.

Bass is different from DB* series and from Yincrow RW series. It's the biggest bass by amount, has the lowest extension of all my flatheads and has magical oomph component to it, reminds me of RW-4000 upper bass, but it is not that as I compared them back to back.

Mids / upper mids seem pretty close to DBX but perhaps even more wide and crisp, don't get much of DB1 upper mids reverb magic, it's there but not as much up in your face as with DB1. Also DB1 bass is a joke compared to DM7 Ti hahaha, still takes 3-4 songs to be fine with it

I won't say much about treble/ highs because I don't use properly hi-res music, and I use Bluetooth DACs lately with AptX HD. It's obviously great, but I also use full foams, so I never get all treble to myself

I'm sure I'll say more things about it as I collect more impressions, but this is it for now after 3-5 hours of listening on BTR7 and BTR17

 

[droenald]

The graph shows the Shozy Cygnus (Silver-Plated cable) with its shimmering vividness in the high frequencies and the Shozy BK (OCC cable) with its good expression of the vocal range, which is a little closer to the mid-range.
The Shozy Cygnus MkII uses a OFC cable according to Penon Audio.

I asked ChatGPT to do a quick comparison of those two.
Here is ChatGPTs "comparison review". It was pretty long, so I asked ChatGPT to shorten it.
Since it aligns pretty well with the graphs I decided to post it:


The Shozy BK Stardust and Shozy Cygnus have different sound signatures:

• BK Stardust: More balanced, slightly darker, with better treble clarity and a fuller bass. Mids are well-defined, and highs have a slight sparkle without being harsh.
• Cygnus: More natural and relaxed, with a warm midrange and smoother treble. The bass is lighter and less prominent compared to the BK Stardust.

Verdict:
The BK Stardust is ideal for those wanting a balanced, detailed sound with a bit of treble sparkle. The Cygnus is better for a softer, more natural listening experience.

Note: judging by looking at the graph alone (one shouldn't do that... ) I think the "with better treble clarity" statement might be false, seeing the Cygnus has overall more energy between 4-9khz. The "more treble sparkle" statement on the other hand aligns with the graph. I am now officially interested in the Stardust.

So I received Temperament DM7 Ti from TheHiFiCat today, wooden box was bit cracked but I'm not into boxes so it's okay

Very basic impressions here

Fit, the earbud has longer stem with 2-pin connector, it's actually same length as 2-pin earbud NiceHCK YDX. I have figured that from product images and hoped it will work over ear with one cable I have, and it's true. On most cables it's too long, but this cable is fine, however I found swapping left & right did it even better fit for me.

Sound: Much louder than DBX almost like RW-4000 where DM7 is 32 ohm, DBX is 30, and RW-4000 is 16 ohm, so it's got crazy sensitivity.

Bass is different from DB* series and from Yincrow RW series. It's the biggest bass by amount, has the lowest extension of all my flatheads and has magical oomph component to it, reminds me of RW-4000 upper bass, but it is not that as I compared them back to back.

Mids / upper mids seem pretty close to DBX but perhaps even more wide and crisp, don't get much of DB1 upper mids reverb magic, it's there but not as much up in your face as with DB1. Also DB1 bass is a joke compared to DM7 Ti hahaha, still takes 3-4 songs to be fine with it

I won't say much about treble/ highs because I don't use properly hi-res music, and I use Bluetooth DACs lately with AptX HD. It's obviously great, but I also use full foams, so I never get all treble to myself

I'm sure I'll say more things about it as I collect more impressions, but this is it for now after 3-5 hours of listening on BTR7 and BTR17

It would seem to me you like your new shiny. Congrats! Luckily they don't seem to sound too similar to any of your other totl buds...
Also happy to hear they work for you over ear. Looking forward to further impressions.
By the way: I find a lot of fixed cable buds work fine over ear as well. Notably the VE SMG does. It has a very stiff cable. If hanging them over the ear and giving them a 360degree rotation before inserting into the cocha they will stay there absolutely safely because of the stiff cable and cable memory.

@mt877 : if it is no hassle, could you post your measurement of the RW3000? I might want to try to do some eq on the bass, and the graph might be helpful to adjust frequency and q for the low shelf.
I'd also be interested in the measurement for the Ucotech ES-P3 if you have done any. If not, no need to do that, I don't want to create any work for you!
That's it for now - it has gotten very long. The double posting restriction is annoying. I'd rather have this post devided into 2 or 3 posts.

 

[h8uthemost]

So I received Temperament DM7 Ti from TheHiFiCat today, wooden box was bit cracked but I'm not into boxes so it's okay

Very basic impressions here

Fit, the earbud has longer stem with 2-pin connector, it's actually same length as 2-pin earbud NiceHCK YDX. I have figured that from product images and hoped it will work over ear with one cable I have, and it's true. On most cables it's too long, but this cable is fine, however I found swapping left & right did it even better fit for me.

Sound: Much louder than DBX almost like RW-4000 where DM7 is 32 ohm, DBX is 30, and RW-4000 is 16 ohm, so it's got crazy sensitivity.

Bass is different from DB* series and from Yincrow RW series. It's the biggest bass by amount, has the lowest extension of all my flatheads and has magical oomph component to it, reminds me of RW-4000 upper bass, but it is not that as I compared them back to back.

Mids / upper mids seem pretty close to DBX but perhaps even more wide and crisp, don't get much of DB1 upper mids reverb magic, it's there but not as much up in your face as with DB1. Also DB1 bass is a joke compared to DM7 Ti hahaha, still takes 3-4 songs to be fine with it

I won't say much about treble/ highs because I don't use properly hi-res music, and I use Bluetooth DACs lately with AptX HD. It's obviously great, but I also use full foams, so I never get all treble to myself

I'm sure I'll say more things about it as I collect more impressions, but this is it for now after 3-5 hours of listening on BTR7 and BTR17

Congrats on your new shiny and thanks for the impressions! Thehificat is a great looking site. Thanks for bringing it up.

 

[mt877]

@mt877 : if it is no hassle, could you post your measurement of the RW3000? I might want to try to do some eq on the bass, and the graph might be helpful to adjust frequency and q for the low shelf.
I'd also be interested in the measurement for the Ucotech ES-P3 if you have done any. If not, no need to do that, I don't want to create any work for you!
That's it for now - it has gotten very long. The double posting restriction is annoying. I'd rather have this post devided into 2 or 3 posts.

For now see this post for the ES-P3 FR measurement. Was done with supplied full foams on the buds.

Post in thread 'Earbuds Round-Up'

Dec 28, 2024

Oh I think I've read that review on FB!

And congrats, very exciting! Let us know if you manage to spend more time with them and have some insights to share regarding their potential placement on Flathead Sanctuary ranking list in my signature

After a few more days of listening to tunes with the ES-P3's, I've finally have some thoughts about these buds.

First the overall sound (to my ears) is pretty well balanced. While sub-bass may be a little light, there is some sub-bass presence and ear-felt rumble in tracks which feature bass or drums, like Brandon Lanes's "Bassinyaface"...

• mt877

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[droenald]

For now see this post for the ES-P3 FR measurement. Was done with supplied full foams on the buds.

Post in thread 'Earbuds Round-Up'

Dec 28, 2024

Oh I think I've read that review on FB!

And congrats, very exciting! Let us know if you manage to spend more time with them and have some insights to share regarding their potential placement on Flathead Sanctuary ranking list in my signature

After a few more days of listening to tunes with the ES-P3's, I've finally have some thoughts about these buds.

First the overall sound (to my ears) is pretty well balanced. While sub-bass may be a little light, there is some sub-bass presence and ear-felt rumble in tracks which feature bass or drums, like Brandon Lanes's "Bassinyaface"...

• mt877

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Thank you very much. I didn't remember you posting the frequency graph, even though your impressions post was what first piqued my interest in the ES-P3. It was not even that long ago, sorry. My brain is already starting to fail me...
Edit: nevermind the measurement for the RW3000.
I found it in a comparison post of yours where you compared the RW-3000 vs the FF-5 including graphs for both.
Anyways: It would seem the graph is not helpful for EQing. The RW-3000 does not roll of this early in the bass region to my ears. It would seem there is a slight underestimation of bass in the graph - I am simply getting a better fit than the silicone ear.
Edit2: I have settled on a preliminary EQ for the RW-3000. It keeps the original sound signature intact and retains its velvety high-end character, it enhances the bass and treble extension a tiny bit.
If anyone wants to give this a try:
Pre gain: -3db
Low shelf: 80hz +3db Q 0.6
Peak filter: 150hz -2db Q 0.65
High shelf: 13000hz +3db Q 0.7

 

[ttorbic]

So I received Temperament DM7 Ti from TheHiFiCat today, wooden box was bit cracked but I'm not into boxes so it's okay

Very basic impressions here

Fit, the earbud has longer stem with 2-pin connector, it's actually same length as 2-pin earbud NiceHCK YDX. I have figured that from product images and hoped it will work over ear with one cable I have, and it's true. On most cables it's too long, but this cable is fine, however I found swapping left & right did it even better fit for me.

Sound: Much louder than DBX almost like RW-4000 where DM7 is 32 ohm, DBX is 30, and RW-4000 is 16 ohm, so it's got crazy sensitivity.

Bass is different from DB* series and from Yincrow RW series. It's the biggest bass by amount, has the lowest extension of all my flatheads and has magical oomph component to it, reminds me of RW-4000 upper bass, but it is not that as I compared them back to back.

Mids / upper mids seem pretty close to DBX but perhaps even more wide and crisp, don't get much of DB1 upper mids reverb magic, it's there but not as much up in your face as with DB1. Also DB1 bass is a joke compared to DM7 Ti hahaha, still takes 3-4 songs to be fine with it

I won't say much about treble/ highs because I don't use properly hi-res music, and I use Bluetooth DACs lately with AptX HD. It's obviously great, but I also use full foams, so I never get all treble to myself

I'm sure I'll say more things about it as I collect more impressions, but this is it for now after 3-5 hours of listening on BTR7 and BTR17

Thanks for your impressions! They sound like an impressive set if they trade blows with DBX!

 

[mochill]

Just pre ordered the basshead king

 

[ClaudiaRox]

Just pre ordered the basshead king

you can pre-order already? From his post I see pre-order is only coming soon. Unless you're extra special haha.