I don't normally listen to your specific combination of music. I've just listened to several extended mixes of Jpop, animation OST and symphony on Amazon music with both Yincrow RW-3000 and RW-4000. I think the RW-3000 is better suited for that specific mix of music types.
I haven’t tried it yet because there are almost no earbuds for sale in my city. I used to own IEMs, but recently my ears started to feel uncomfortable, so I would consider earbuds.
By the way, the IEM I mainly used before was Moondrop illumination. I’m not sure if you know about this IEM.
I don't normally listen to your specific combination of music. I've just listened to several extended mixes of Jpop, animation OST and symphony on Amazon music with both Yincrow RW-3000 and RW-4000. I think the RW-3000 is better suited for that specific mix of music types.
I haven’t tried it yet because there are almost no earbuds for sale in my city. I used to own IEMs, but recently my ears started to feel uncomfortable, so I would consider earbuds.
By the way, the IEM I mainly used before was Moondrop illumination. I’m not sure if you know about this IEM.
I am pretty new to earbuds and the audiophile craze of buying new gear all the time. Excuse me if what I write might not be clear or misleading, as I probably am not too familiar with the lingo yet...
My findings about my preferences in earbuds so far are this:
If people call a sound signature "neutral" - to me this tends to be somewhat bright, and not reflecting the experience of hearing sound in real life.
"Balanced" - this may be balanced for me or still a tiny bit too bright.
"Balanced" with a slight bass boost and a tiny bit of added warmth would be what I would call "natural" sounding for me.
As source I am using the Qudelix 5k, crossfeed setting at 28, minimum phase fast rolloff filter.
Eb2s: I instantly fell in love with the tuning. Silky Smoooth. The most Beautiful timbre on vocals and drums! Warm, but never too warm for my taste, avoiding any bass bleed to the mids. Bass is there in ample amount, just as much as needed. Perfect presence on vocals. Guitars have the proper presence and "excitement" as well. There is subbass rolloff and treble rolloff, which starts pretty early, which is why timbre on wind instruments like is lacking a tiny bit and cymbals, shakers and alike instruments lack a bit of sparkle and presence. Bass texturing is not great and lack of subbass means that for Electronica it is not a great match (Bass sounds slightly "rubbery") but still ok, because there is no lack of bass.
Width is not a lot, imaging and seperation are also not very good. Depth is very good if is "baked in" to the track via reverb, as I find the frequency response very natural and this translates to realistic reverb for me. Otherwise depth and layering are not great. Dynamics are nice, Detail retrieval is nothing to write home about however.
Overall the somewhat lacking technical abilities and the slight lack of treble air are probably part of the "secret sauce" of these buds. It is never fatiguing and always just sounds so beautiful, slightly "romanticized". The signature works at lower volume and at higher volume playing, which is also a plus.
It works well with nearly all songs of my playlist. Not great for "Iron Maiden -The Trooper" though, as it lacks seperation, making for an uninvolving playpack, it just doesn't rock hard, which this literally must do, beeing "hard rock"! . Also not great on "Kavinsky - Nightcall" , showing a somewhat "rubbery bass". "Sinatra - The September of my life (Live at the Sands)" is a real highlight here. His voice sounds incredibly pleasant, great timbre. The applause at the end of the track also sounds very realistic, so frequency response and balance are very good for my tastes!
These buds are also comfy, this combined with the tonality and the lacking technicalities make for a beautifully unfatiguing experience. I am not even interested in testing out the 2 Ry4s varieties I received today...
The cable is ok I guess. I got the version with microphone, only because the version without mic wasn't available at 14€. The mic is hanging on the cable which is going out from the right bud, which is a stupid choice, making the weight distribution of the cable slightly uneven. Not a big problem. The build feels very nice and substantial.
If one might want to improve and complete the frequency response here is a parametric eq setting:
low shelf, 4db, 70hz, q 0,75
high shelf, 11000hz, q 0,7
Preamp -4db
This will improve usability for Electronica a lot, and will also slightly improve the imaging.
Overall I am not sure if it is necessary though: the better extension on both ends will draw you to look closer for details and you will realize the lack of bass texturing and treble detail some more, which might result in some loss of the "secret sauce" in these earbuds.
Aeolian bells: This is going to be short. As some have said there is some kind of "reverb" sound going on, others have written, that music played sounds as if you'd be hearing it outside at an open air festival. This is true. There seems to be a pretty wide and strong treble boost in between probably 6-10khz. Treble sounds totally unrealistic to me. Especially the shakers, tambourine, hi hat on "Big Thief - Two hands" sound somewhat wheigtless and totally off in timbre. I got another shock when the applause on "Sinatra - The September of my life" set in. It sounded very off and unrealistic. I could not get these out of my ears fast enough. This could probably work as a "looking glass" if you are interested in details because of the emphasized treble. To say a good thing: the treble is still smooth and not painfull at all! But I can't see me using these a lot...
Excellent! I was hoping the EB2S was a pleasant experience for you. Mainly cuz I want a pair, and I think I'll now get a pair.
Thank you for the detailed impression. It was well thought out. Quick question, EB2S and Rosemary/Iris 2.0... Which one will you be grabbing for the most?
And that's a shame about the bells. The ones you got is a new revision i guess. I've read very positive things about the old ones and that's the reason I wanted to get em. But because I saw that these are "new" I figured I'd better wait for some reviews. Guess I'm glad that I did.
Right now of course the EB2S.
I will not answer your question directly, because I think I know, what you want to know!
I read that you find the Rosemary a little boring and prefer the Iris 2.0.
You EQ the Bass region, right? I am guessing, that you get rid of some of the bass bleed in the Iris and end up with a less bloated low end... I actually think the Iris 2.0 has quite a bit better timbre on guitar and vocals than the Rosemary. More energy between 3-5 khz than in the Rosemary I think, making Instruments and vocals more "interesting" and correct sounding than in the Rosemary. The Rosemary in turn has better treble, resulting in better detail retrieval, Imaging and more "shine" on cymbals. Generally the Rosemary is technically better. Timbre better in Iris 2.0.
If what I wrote there is matching how you feel about Iris VS Rosemary, then you will absolutely enjoy the EB2S. It has tonally the most pleasing midrange - upper midrange - treble range transition in any of the buds I own. Totally natural sounding to me with beautiful timbre.
Please be aware that there might be some bias in what I write right now, as I am in love with these buds!
One thing: the EB2S has a little less bass than either one of Iris or Rosemary.
Right now of course the EB2S.
I will not answer your question directly, because I think I know, what you want to know!
I read that you find the Rosemary a little boring and prefer the Iris 2.0.
You EQ the Bass region, right? I am guessing, that you get rid of some of the bass bleed in the Iris and end up with a less bloated low end... I actually think the Iris 2.0 has quite a bit better timbre on guitar and vocals than the Rosemary. More energy between 3-5 khz than in the Rosemary I think, making Instruments and vocals more "interesting" and correct sounding than in the Rosemary. The Rosemary in turn has better treble, resulting in better detail retrieval, Imaging and more "shine" on cymbals. Generally the Rosemary is technically better. Timbre better in Iris 2.0.
If what I wrote there is matching how you feel about Iris VS Rosemary, then you will absolutely enjoy the EB2S. It has tonally the most pleasing midrange - upper midrange - treble range transition in any of the buds I own. Totally natural sounding to me with beautiful timbre.
Please be aware that there might be some bias in what I write right now, as I am in love with these buds!
One thing: the EB2S has a little less bass than either one of Iris or Rosemary.
Yeah I still like the Rosemary of course, but I've been using nothing but the Iris 2.0 lately. And you got it, I eq that bass region(I forget who showed me that). It sounds good without it. But when I add a little it sounds so much better.
This probably wasn't quite a fair question to ask since you're still in that honeymoon phase with the EB2S. But you know my tastes so if you say I'm gonna dig them then I'm gonna get them!
I will use this article as a basis for selection. The comments in it also provide a detailed comparison with previous products. Thank you for your suggestions!
I posted this information for another member before. I hope it will be useful for you too.
For your reference here's some measurements of the diameters (sans foams) of some commonly recommended earbuds. If you have some coins that are roughly the same size as the Yincrow X6's naked (sans foams) speaker cover diameter you can do a quick check for fit into the Concha of your ear. (Don't walk around with those coins in your ears... people might think you're really weird, or it's a new fashion statement. LOL) Earbuds are mainly held in place by placing the speaker into the Concha and held in place by wedging behind the Tragus and Antitragus. Typically the stem of a MX500 shell will mostly align with the Intertragal notch.
People that have smaller than average ears often have trouble with earbuds because the Concha / Tragus / Antitragus area is too small for a comfortable fit. You might even find that you have a good fit in one ear but not the other (too loose / too tight) due to natural asymmetry of your ears. If a MX500 type shell with foams fits comfortably, you can wear most earbuds without a problem.
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