Earbuds Round-Up
Sep 3, 2022 at 3:48 AM Post #64,291 of 75,235
I haven't had any problems changing it in the dark. The dimple makes it so that its easy (for me at least) to tell when you have it lined up right because it's much easier to push it in. The resistance that the bump causes allows me to tell when I have the connector aligned properly. Does yours not work that way? so you're able to push the connector on just as easily no matter how it's aligned? I guess I got lucky with a connector that works the way it's supposed to work.
That's exactly how it works on my EM5. Easy peasy Janasesy!
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 4:46 AM Post #64,292 of 75,235
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Internals of the YD30 earbuds. I wonder what kind of drivers they are.

I’m going to drill a back vent

Edit: that’s it chief. A simple 1.5mm hole at the back of the shell fixes the bass problem of these buds. I’m very satisfied with the sound to the point that I don’t want to A/B with FF3 to avoid disappointment. (Note to self: don’t hype)

Edit 2: soundstage is a bit larger. Midbass is a bit overwhelming. I might need to add a filter to the bass vent later

Edit 3: added micropore to the vent from the inside of the shell. The bass is more balanced but still richer than the stock tuning to my ears. The bass does not have the rumble and texture of FF3, however.

Edit 4: Impressions from wife: these buds sound expensive. Very clear and crisp. Not as bassy as her Sony Xm4 headphones. Got her to try It’s my life acoustic version on YouTube and she couldn’t stop listening until the end, which is a good sign. She couldn’t stand how boring my Andromeda is.
 
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Sep 3, 2022 at 8:14 AM Post #64,293 of 75,235
The Viridis is all about the mids and treble. The bass is very fast, tight, and detailed. The mids are sweet with lots of separation and layering. The treble extends very high and provides all the micro details the music has to offer. The Viridis' soundstage is the widest I have heard in an earbud and gives a very holographic, out of head feel that sometimes had me looking over my shoulder and stuff to identify the source of a sound before realizing that it was in the music and coming from the earbuds. They make certain musical genres and styles as well as vocals sound absolutely beautiful and refined, IMO.

The FF3s have powerful bass and that authoritative presentation that makes the lows and mids the star of the show. The treble is slightly rolled off which contributes to that tuning and presentation. While the soundstage on the FF3s is big and has as much depth as the Viridis, it isn't as wide and, for me at least, doesn't create as much of that holigraphic effect I mentioned with the Viridis. Basically, the FF3s are best at what the Virdis aren't very good for and the Virdis are specialists in the kinds of music that don't play into the strengths of the FF3s.

Between these two buds, I can listen to every genre/style of music that I listen to in complete aural bliss. I think they are a spectacular complimentary pair and I'm happy to own both.
To be fair, I have not heard an earbud that can rival the Viridis in terms of width and height. Even K’searphone Onmyoji with it’s flagship sound doesn’t have that gigantic soundstage the viridis has.

However, with that being said, The Viridis is far from my favorite earbud as it is simply anemic in the bass region.
 
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Sep 3, 2022 at 8:24 AM Post #64,294 of 75,235
B1625D64-B8C7-4337-90E5-93E2790FD928.jpeg
74C86991-1564-4A5A-8083-0A68CBB24DC7.jpeg

Internals of the YD30 earbuds. I wonder what kind of drivers they are.

I’m going to drill a back vent

Edit: that’s it chief. A simple 1.5mm hole at the back of the shell fixes the bass problem of these buds. I’m very satisfied with the sound to the point that I don’t want to A/B with FF3 to avoid disappointment. (Note to self: don’t hype)

Edit 2: soundstage is a bit larger. Midbass is a bit overwhelming. I might need to add a filter to the bass vent later

Edit 3: added micropore to the vent from the inside of the shell. The bass is more balanced but still richer than the stock tuning to my ears. The bass does not have the rumble and texture of FF3, however.

Edit 4: Impressions from wife: these buds sound expensive. Very clear and crisp. Not as bassy as her Sony Xm4 headphones. Got her to try It’s my life acoustic version on YouTube and she couldn’t stop listening until the end, which is a good sign. She couldn’t stand how boring my Andromeda is.
From your pics, looks like the horseshoe foams (can see the edge adhesive) are supposed to be stuck on the shells but came off attached to the drivers. The top of the shell is notched so would indicate the driver is mounted with the voice coil wires at the top. Kind of interesting about the driver positioning, I guess they found a reasonable tuning with the driver in that position?
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 8:31 AM Post #64,295 of 75,235
From your pics, looks like the horseshoe foams (can see the edge adhesive) are supposed to be stuck on the shells but came off attached to the drivers. The top of the shell is notched so would indicate the driver is mounted with the voice coil wires at the top. Kind of interesting about the driver positioning, I guess they found a reasonable tuning with the driver in that position?
I found notches at both top and bottom. The opening of the horseshoes points downward. I think everything looks just like the photos in the earbuds DIY guide.
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 8:37 AM Post #64,296 of 75,235
I found notches at both top and bottom. The opening of the horseshoes points downward. I think everything looks just like the photos in the earbuds DIY guide.
Ah, OK couldn’t see a notch at the bottom. So voice coil is at the bottom then.
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 9:33 AM Post #64,297 of 75,235
B1625D64-B8C7-4337-90E5-93E2790FD928.jpeg
74C86991-1564-4A5A-8083-0A68CBB24DC7.jpeg

Internals of the YD30 earbuds. I wonder what kind of drivers they are.

I’m going to drill a back vent

Edit: that’s it chief. A simple 1.5mm hole at the back of the shell fixes the bass problem of these buds. I’m very satisfied with the sound to the point that I don’t want to A/B with FF3 to avoid disappointment. (Note to self: don’t hype)

Edit 2: soundstage is a bit larger. Midbass is a bit overwhelming. I might need to add a filter to the bass vent later

Edit 3: added micropore to the vent from the inside of the shell. The bass is more balanced but still richer than the stock tuning to my ears. The bass does not have the rumble and texture of FF3, however.

Edit 4: Impressions from wife: these buds sound expensive. Very clear and crisp. Not as bassy as her Sony Xm4 headphones. Got her to try It’s my life acoustic version on YouTube and she couldn’t stop listening until the end, which is a good sign. She couldn’t stand how boring my Andromeda is.
What was the initial problem with the bass?
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 10:20 AM Post #64,298 of 75,235
A quick look at the M4 ST10s 150 and ST20Pro 100 drivers. They don't come with any foams so either use up the foams provided with the base M4 or have some at the ready. Will have a listen later and see what they sound like.

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Edit: Forgot to add the full range BA drivers. As previously mentioned only medium tips are included. Measured nozzle size is 4.78mm, be sure to find tips that will fit that nozzle size if you need something other than medium tips.

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Sep 3, 2022 at 11:13 AM Post #64,299 of 75,235
A quick look at the M4 ST10s 150 and ST20Pro 100 drivers. They don't come with any foams so either use up the foams provided with the base M4 or have some at the ready. Will have a listen later and see what they sound like.

ST10s 150 and ST20Pro 100.jpg

Edit: Forgot to add the full range BA drivers. As previously mentioned only medium tips are included. Measured nozzle size is 4.78mm, be sure to find tips that will fit that nozzle size if you need something other than medium tips.

Full range BA.jpg
Wait, that last one allows you to convert your earbuds into an IEM?
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Post #64,300 of 75,235
A quick look at the M4 ST10s 150 and ST20Pro 100 drivers. They don't come with any foams so either use up the foams provided with the base M4 or have some at the ready. Will have a listen later and see what they sound like.

ST10s 150 and ST20Pro 100.jpg

Edit: Forgot to add the full range BA drivers. As previously mentioned only medium tips are included. Measured nozzle size is 4.78mm, be sure to find tips that will fit that nozzle size if you need something other than medium tips.



Does the Smabat BA bright? From the supplied graph it looks like bright
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 11:38 AM Post #64,302 of 75,235
Does the Smabat BA bright? From the supplied graph it looks like bright
Decent treble extension, not piercing. The M4 base modules (what the earbud and IEM modules screw onto) has Smabat's bass labyrinth tuning. The earbuds and IEM modules are rear vented, transferring sound waves to the base modules and pass through the bass labyrinth. Actually the IEM bass is pretty impressive because of that. Everyone would think that a BA doesn't have good bass, especially a full range BA, but Smabat's bass labyrinth makes the bass stand out and that helps the treble response to not be so sharp.

EDIT: This what I posted just 2 pages back:
About the Smabat M4 single full range BA IEM modules... I don't have IEMs with a single full range BA, so I can't directly compare them to any like equipment sound wise. I'm not going to bash these IEM modules. The only IEMs with BAs I have are the Sony IER-M7 and IER-M9 which are much pricier and frankly it would not even be a fair comparison between the Sony's and the Smabat. The bass labyrinth of the housing does increase the bass signature of the BA IEM modules, the highs aren't overpowering or piercing as speculated by a couple people earlier in this thread, and they do put out decent sound, just not on the same level as the Sony's. They would be useful if you needed some passive environmental isolation that the earbud modules can't provide. Smabat only provides medium size ear tips, no small or large, so if you get them and need a size different than medium, you'll need to provide your own ear tips. I'll leave it at that.
 
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Sep 3, 2022 at 11:48 AM Post #64,303 of 75,235
Decent treble extension, not piercing. The M4 base modules (what the earbud and IEM modules screw into) has Smabat's bass labyrinth tuning. The earbuds and IEM modules are rear vented, transferring sound waves to the base modules and pass through the bass labyrinth. Actually the IEM bass is pretty impressive because of that. Everyone would think that a BA doesn't have good bass, especially a full range BA, but Smabat's bass labyrinth makes the bass stand out and that helps the treble response to not be so sharp.
Damn! Impressive engineering from Smabat. Can't wait for your full review! Do you have m2s pro with super one driver? Appreciate if you can compare with Smabat m4 with ST20 pro driver in term of bass performance
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 11:52 AM Post #64,304 of 75,235
Damn! Impressive engineering from Smabat. Can't wait for your full review! Do you have m2s pro with super one driver? Appreciate if you can compare with Smabat m4 with ST20 pro driver in term of bass performance
I don't have the M2s Pro, so no comparison coming.
 
Sep 3, 2022 at 6:14 PM Post #64,305 of 75,235
Damn! Impressive engineering from Smabat. Can't wait for your full review! Do you have m2s pro with super one driver? Appreciate if you can compare with Smabat m4 with ST20 pro driver in term of bass performance
I do, but I didn't order the ST20 Pro driver. I only ordered the Super One driver 100 bio, and the 150Ti (and of course the stock 40 LCP) drivers, so I can at least compare those with the M2s Pro and the Super One 100 bio, 32 bio, 40LCP, and 40Ti drivers.
 

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