[Scubadevils]

Damn thats a lot at RRP - take the money! My EM5s due today or tomorrow - i think that'll work well for jazz/classical, from what i read the timbre is pretty good on them.

Yeah definitely well suited to jazz, classical and indeed ambient which I have been mostly using them for. They reign supreme for comfort and literally hardly feeling them in your ears, plus a fantastic cable. Shame about mine but I reckon I'll go refund and buy at a better price.

Next on your list for more of a thud should be the Newbsound 32pro... especially for $80.

 

[WoodyLuvr]

A correction in your earbud timeline. I emailed Penon audio and they confirmed by contacting Shozy that there is no Shozy Cygnus II and that they have always used a 16Ω driver. There is no change is impedance of Shozy Cygnus from the launch of the earbud till now.

The 32Ω listing was a mistake by Penon audio and now they have corrected that on their website, they also made it clear by contacting Shozy that it was always 16Ω and not 18Ω.

Appreciate the heads up! Thank you.

Regarding the 18Ω vs 16Ω: a number of us came to the realization back in 2016 to 2018 that Shozy might have been using a mislabeled 18Ω driver after multiple measurements on multiple units resulted in measurements falling between 17 and 18Ω... averaging out and rounding to ~18Ω. I'll add a note explaining this which I should have done before.

 

[rprodrigues]

You think you can pull a driver out of an MX500 shell @Stuff Jones ? Many people do it with a bottle opener. It’s probably safer than with your teeth. If so, for a few dollars you can tune a Tingo TG38s and have a world class bud. Particularly for natural,
acoustic instruments AND doubly so for recordings inside real spaces. I have it and the LBBs and I’m sure you’ll find that they are 2 different leagues of resolution and spaciousness. It’s the real diamond in the rough, but it does require tuning to get there. If you don’t want to attempt it, the LBBs isn’t a bad way to go. Comes tuned very nicely and has a great fit for me—better than an MX500. The Cacophony is a notoriously poorer fitting bud….

Would you mind sharing what improvements you got retuning them?

I thought they were prety good right out the box.

 

[ian91]

Damn thats a lot at RRP - take the money! My EM5s due today or tomorrow - i think that'll work well for jazz/classical, from what i read the timbre is pretty good on them.

Buds are so good for coherency and acoustic timbre. Please check out Blur earbuds too - I think it would be remiss of me to not chime in with the suggestion even though its incredibly predictable of me (check my signature...). They've been a great source of enjoyment over the past few months and are in a similar price bracket to the EM5. Let us know how you get on with the EM5 though - I hope it doesn't leave you wanting.

 

[Scubadevils]

Speaking of coherency and acoustic timbre, I have this playing right now on Chaconne - wow. Checking out the recommendations made yesterday later tonight.

 

[ian91]

Speaking of coherency and acoustic timbre, I have this playing right now on Chaconne - wow. Checking out the recommendations made yesterday later tonight.

Excellent recording that one!

 

[Scubadevils]

Excellent recording that one!

Yes I discovered it thanks to a post from @gLer - another member that needs to revisit buds!

 

[ranfan]

Speaking of coherency and acoustic timbre, I have this playing right now on Chaconne - wow. Checking out the recommendations made yesterday later tonight.

You're making me wanna get the Chaconne Definitely worth a revisit try. Last time I tried was without the foam, I wonder if the foam might help increase the natural sweetness of the tone

 

[irv003]

Appreciate the heads up! Thank you.

Regarding the 18Ω vs 16Ω: a number of us came to the realization back in 2016 to 2018 that Shozy might have been using a mislabeled 18Ω driver after multiple measurements on multiple units resulted in measurements falling between 17 and 18Ω... averaging out and rounding to ~18Ω. I'll add a note explaining this which I should have done before.

i recabled an old shozy cygnus last time since the wire is already in hulk mode (green) and measuring the impedance, its safe to say its16Ω.

 

[Scubadevils]

You're making me wanna get the Chaconne Definitely worth a revisit try. Last time I tried was without the foam, I wonder if the foam might help increase the natural sweetness of the tone

I haven't tried without foam and in fact, I've double foam to keep a secure fit. I suspect Chaconne could be touching harsh without foam... I must try though.

 

[boredbuyingstuff]

I haven't tried without foam and in fact, I've double foam to keep a secure fit. I suspect Chaconne could be touching harsh without foam... I must try though.

Can you share your thoughts on Chaconne vs LBBs?

 

[Scubadevils]

Can you share your thoughts on Chaconne vs LBBs?

I will a proper listen to both tonight and share some thoughts.

 

[Rick1982]

My EM5 arrived just now... I hope they sound at last as good as they are beautiful.
Great packaging.

 

[WoodyLuvr]

i recabled an old shozy cygnus last time since the wire is already in hulk mode (green) and measuring the impedance, its safe to say its16Ω.

That doesn't mean or imply that all of ours were not. There was some suspicion that multiple drivers might have been at play in the early Shozy days (similar to early models from Svara and Sambat)... it was not necessarily intentional but rather Shozy being tricked by the driver provider/manufacturer and/or drivers simply being mislabeled.

Just so you don't think I am some batty old guy off his rocker here is a related post from this very thread:

I measured impedance of some buds
LD3.0 400 - 399 Ohm
LD3.0 320 - 311 Ohm
LD3.0 150 - 143 Ohm
VeZen 2.0 - 290 Ohm
VeZen 1.0 - 308 Ohm
Shozy Cygnus - 17 Ohm
Ve Asura 2.0 - 155 Ohm
Beta Asura - 148 Ohm

 

[Stuff Jones]

I will a proper listen to both tonight and share some thoughts.

Any chance of adding the Newbsound 32pro for a three way? LBBS and 32Pro have both been mentioned as Chaconne alternatives.