[rprodrigues]

I also received my TO400s a few months ago with the right connector being loose, the cable would fall right out while wearing them, had to buy an additional mmcx cable and if they are moved too much while in ear the right cuts out.

I ordered them today...

What are your thoughts on them in terms of sound?

 

[furyossa]

"You have to take into account that it is tuned by Tonekng." dont want to stir up anything but what do you mean by this? The TO400s are mediocre at best

I mean DiY400ohm u can tune by yourself with your build (shell+cable), but if it is tuned by the manufacturer then you can expect either better or worse
obviously as you say about TO400 is something in between ie. mediocre. BTW DIY400 is not "mediocre" for sure

 

[Au13]

I ordered them today...

What are your thoughts on them in terms of sound?

I use them almost entirely for gaming so I can't really help in detail with describing the sound, but I use them because they do what I want better than others. Plenty of space, feels very clean/clear

 

[kadas152]

Smabat Store on AE has pretty good sale price for DIY M2 Pro especially the ST10S Gold driver. I was able to get custom M2 Pro set with ST10S driver and both tuning models for less than $30
Unfortunately they have one item per customer limitations set up on those DIY components which effectively means its impossible to buy tuning filters and M2 Main Module together. But if you write the store they can arrange it for you

 

[Philimon]

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/yincrow-x6.22393/
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32809743166.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail

Does Yincrow X6 actually use biocellulose drivers as advertised?

Yincrow X6 is similar to old Vido earbuds. Vido earbuds show some frequency response variation based on build/color (or possibly just quality control), so does Yincrow have similar idiosyncracies or inconsistencies?

I ordered three different colors to test (yincrow). Will share findings.

 

[davjac84]

Went back in the thread to get updated since I have been mia for a while. I have owned the TO400s since they were released, I do not recommend them unless you really want to hear what they sound like. Bad quality with the cable arriving with a problem and one driver dying within half a year. Their sound quality is also meh, you can do better for the money...

I think these buds sound terriffic! I don't have that many buds (Ourart ACG, Memt T5 and some others), but compared to those I have they certainly are much better, not counting TO600 that is. TO400s are fantastic, but TO600 are even better, atleast if you like a bit more oomph in the bass department. Even compared to my HD600 I still love these two buds!
Regarding the build quality you are right, it could be better. But both my 400 and 600 are still rocking after owning them a couple of years, so not that bad experience for me.

 

[cenizas]

I recieved the DIY MX500 2 days ago, and here are my quick impressions:
They sound completely off. No pinnea gain there, and there's an important deep at 6k which doesn't help (and I can't get it EQed so it's a major issue). But admittedly tehy sound "fast" and have a very enjoyable response in the lower part of the spectrum. They seem to perform best with a somewhat loose seal, where the bass are linear (but still extanded) and distortion free.

I'd love to know about cheap buds tuned with a pinnea gain if you guys have suggestions (many thanks to @cenizas who did it already). So far I have MS16, Openheart and Ty 32 as winners in my book (all well worth their low price if you don't have them yet)

I think it's a dilemma, had this discussion with @Sam L awhile back and we concluded that tuners and those figuring out a target curve are stuck between a rock and a hard place because most bud users are used to having little to no pinna gain and actually like that more laid back presentation. So tuning for pinna gain might actually be shooting yourself in the foot with the core earbud lovers. It's a tough decision since most tuning gains can be made with the implementation of better bass control and introducing some pinna gain.

On the same note, I think there's also the case to be made that pinna gain is not always necessary and preference wise that are those like myself who can sometimes even prefer the laid back presentation of low to no pinna gain. You see this in iems too, a lot of reference monitors, uerm/rr, qdc8ss and 4ss, itsfit r3, pears sh2 etc have low to no pinna gain, and still sound very tonally correct. So I think the position that pinna gain is absolutely necessary to sound good is also not entirely true. I'm still trying to get a better understanding of it too. That being said, bud tunings in general are still pretty atrocious and there are a lot of other improvements that can be made even before touching pinna gain.

 

[cenizas]

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/yincrow-x6.22393/
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32809743166.html?trace=wwwdetail2mobilesitedetail

Does Yincrow X6 actually use biocellulose drivers as advertised?

Yincrow X6 is similar to old Vido earbuds. Vido earbuds show some frequency response variation based on build/color (or possibly just quality control), so does Yincrow have similar idiosyncracies or inconsistencies?

I ordered three different colors to test (yincrow). Will share findings.

I doubt it. Very likely the same driver as vido, so mylar/PET. But it's China, so it's fairly doable to do a production run of a vido driver and change the diaphragm material so it's hard to say with 100% certainty.

 

[baskingshark]

Has anybody tried this earbud? Purported to have beryllium in the driver and quite cheap.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001589119116.html

Might consider getting it for 11/11!

 

[baskingshark]

Earbuds anonymous is going at $25 USD on Aliexpress for 11/11: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000286590083.html

Seen many good reviews about it. I think original price is $50 USD. Anyone can advise how does it compare to some midfi earbuds?

 

[RikudouGoku]

Earbuds anonymous is going at $25 USD on Aliexpress for 11/11: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000286590083.html

Seen many good reviews about it. I think original price is $50 USD. Anyone can advise how does it compare to some midfi earbuds?

I believe 50 usd is the price without the discount that is available in the facebook group:

Although I have no idea if the "official" price is 25 usd or somewhere in between.

 

[rprodrigues]

For those who would like to compare Frengru DIY and NICEHCK DIY MX500 buds, these photos are from Frengru's version...
They are similar build wise. In terms of sound, version from NICEHCK is a little warmer. However, that might be due to some unit variance.

Spoiler: Fengru

I also have DIY Pk1 from NICEHCK as well as DIY Pk2 from Frengru. Both have the same sound reproduction and are identical build wise.

 

[RikudouGoku]

For those who would like to compare Frengru DIY and NICEHCK DIY MX500 buds, these photos are from Frengru's version...
They are similar build wise. In terms of sound, version from NICEHCK is a little warmer. However, that might be due to some unit variance.

Spoiler: Fengru

I also have DIY Pk1 from NICEHCK as well as DIY Pk2 from Frengru. Both have the same sound reproduction and are identical build wise.

Honestly dont get why they dont have a proper model name for them.

 

[rprodrigues]

Honestly dont get why they dont have a proper model name for them.

Chifi world has too many mysteries...

 

[RikudouGoku]

Chifi world has too many mysteries...

yeah, a bad name is better than no name...

It would be like if mcdonalds made a new burger called "hamburger" and some other burger store also has one called "hamburger". It be confusing....