[mt877]

@mt877 OK! So, I followed that link, and an error occured. So I went to www.smabat.com and found them on their page, but I am rather confused. If google converter is correct, these are advertised as being $6.41. Am I wrong here? hahaha

Spoiler

The price shown is 960 Chinese Yuan, which is roughly $132.00... it would be a steal if they were $6.41.

 

[hansnaert]

The price shown is 960 Chinese Yuan, which is roughly $132.00... it would be a steal if they were $6.41.

It seems to be $78

https://www.smabat.cn/smabat/products/47495928.html

 

[samandhi]

It seems to be $78

https://www.smabat.cn/smabat/products/47495928.html

That is the S1...

 

[jwilliamhurst]

Venture Electronics Zen SU (Shining Ultimate)

Just received these in the mail. Will give them a proper listen over the next few days and post some initial impressions.

From first listen it’s very mid bass heavy and warm…

 

[Kordonrules]

Venture Electronics Zen SU (Shining Ultimate)

Just received these in the mail. Will give them a proper listen over the next few days and post some initial impressions.

From first listen it’s very mid bass heavy and warm…

You take really nice pic’s.

 

[mt877]

A little M5 Pro Golden update. I been listening to them through my Topping A70 Pro amp and these buds are really shining with the amp's driving power.

 

[jwilliamhurst]

MY TOP 5 EARBUDS

#1 Cypherus Audio Susvara Black Dragon

The mighty fills a huge portion of my library, literally everything in my music library sounds incredible. The deepest most layered sub bass of any Bud I know of! I feel like I’ve gushed enough about this bud.

#2 TGXear Desolation Sound

The man, the myth..The Legend! Mr. Jim Park @tgx78 master of flathead wizardry and painter of mystic landscapes blessed us with his masterpiece and I couldn’t be happier. A wonderful all rounder that excels with classical, modern classical, ambient and modern electronic music. Highly resolving bud! Micro dynamics are

#3 Venture Electronics APWS or Asura Pure White Shining

This is a specialist in my collection and has the best string timbre I’ve ever heard. Excels with solo and small ensemble classical and female vocals. Not a Bud for pop, rock, or anything with too much energy or a lot going on. This is a timbre/tonality king and meant for intimate listening of the highest pedigree.

#4 TGXear Tantalus

An oldie but a remarkable listen when powered properly. This is a recent discovery as I used to own this bud and I sold it due to hearing it muddy and bloated…Re purchased recently as I have a better DAP with better integrated power and Tantalus sounds like an Aroma Jewel in earbud form. Seductive timbre in male and female vocals. Resolving and sparkling treble. Great Modal Jazz bud!

#5 Venture Electronics Zen SU or Shining Ultimate

This is another new bud in my collection and while it sounds GRAND and oozing with warmth I’m still wrapping my head around it. @ian91 was correct in saying it rocks with music from Tool! This bud has some of the most correct sounding guitar tone (electric and acoustic alike) I’ve heard in any monitor, Bud or headphone! Female vocals are favored here and a calling card I’ve noticed with VE. I def hear a house sound in this flagship bud. I still need to run through my library but it’s already a favorite!

This list is subject to change and/or rearrange

Buds I most want to hear:
Yinman 2.0 600ohm
Shozy BK
Puresounds 100-500,600
Ksearphone Bell-Ti+, DBX
Simphonio Dragon 3+
FQL BlueMoon
Yuin PK1
Ucotech Es-P2

 

[piphil]

MY TOP 3 :

#1 Cypherus Audio Susvara Black Dragon
#2 Venture Electronics APWS
#3 TGXear Desolation Sound

But I only have these 3 ...
I flinched on the fact that I only now wanted earbuds (after headphones, iems and the whole "Circus") and I've just bought Technics TZ700, I don't regret it, they're not conventional IEMs, they're very easy to wear but the fact that they plane the lower part requires a cable search and there it is again... or not!

Yes, fixed-cable earbuds are my conclusion.

 

[baskingshark]

You are probably right. That would be kind of a cool touch, though I wanted to see a modular cable in this case. It seems as though all the companies are offering this as standard nowadays.

@mt877, @baskingshark, I pulled the trigger. You guys are a bad influence for me... ROFL

The good news is that I had about $12 rewards on my card that I didn't know about, so they came up to be about $77. If they sound AT LEAST as good as the ST10S (B&G), then they will have been worth it for me... I have always thought that if Smabat could ever get their head out of their arses, and tune them better, they could be up there with Yincrow, Yinman, FiiO, etc... where buds are concerned. They make a really nice product; they just have to learn to tune them better. I am not convinced that even the Chinese like the super "ice pick" sound that they seem to adore so much...

I actually only got this for the "bat" badge. My grandson is a huge Batman fan and would wear it on his shirt (with his blanket cape) proudly.

Thanks for taking one for the team! Look forward to your impressions man!

Hope this will be the start of Smabat's redemption arc.

 

[Kyonnie]

MY TOP 5 EARBUDS

#1 Cypherus Audio Susvara Black Dragon

The mighty fills a huge portion of my library, literally everything in my music library sounds incredible. The deepest most layered sub bass of any Bud I know of! I feel like I’ve gushed enough about this bud.

#2 TGXear Desolation Sound

The man, the myth..The Legend! Mr. Jim Park @tgx78 master of flathead wizardry and painter of mystic landscapes blessed us with his masterpiece and I couldn’t be happier. A wonderful all rounder that excels with classical, modern classical, ambient and modern electronic music. Highly resolving bud! Micro dynamics are

#3 Venture Electronics APWS or Asura Pure White Shining

This is a specialist in my collection and has the best string timbre I’ve ever heard. Excels with solo and small ensemble classical and female vocals. Not a Bud for pop, rock, or anything with too much energy or a lot going on. This is a timbre/tonality king and meant for intimate listening of the highest pedigree.

#4 TGXear Tantalus

An oldie but a remarkable listen when powered properly. This is a recent discovery as I used to own this bud and I sold it due to hearing it muddy and bloated…Re purchased recently as I have a better DAP with better integrated power and Tantalus sounds like an Aroma Jewel in earbud form. Seductive timbre in male and female vocals. Resolving and sparkling treble. Great Modal Jazz bud!

#5 Venture Electronics Zen SU or Shining Ultimate

#1 Cypherus Audio Susvara Black Dragon
#2 Venture Electronics APWS
#3 TGXear Desolation Sound

Wow awesome collections right there but I have other addictions (aka hobbies) to feed lol

 

[Brillig]

A little M5 Pro Golden update. I been listening to them through my Topping A70 Pro amp and these buds are really shining with the amp's driving power.

Are you able to give impressions comparing these to the Yincrow RW-3000?

 

[Leonarfd]

MY TOP 5 EARBUDS

#1 Cypherus Audio Susvara Black Dragon

The mighty fills a huge portion of my library, literally everything in my music library sounds incredible. The deepest most layered sub bass of any Bud I know of! I feel like I’ve gushed enough about this bud.

#2 TGXear Desolation Sound

The man, the myth..The Legend! Mr. Jim Park @tgx78 master of flathead wizardry and painter of mystic landscapes blessed us with his masterpiece and I couldn’t be happier. A wonderful all rounder that excels with classical, modern classical, ambient and modern electronic music. Highly resolving bud! Micro dynamics are

#3 Venture Electronics APWS or Asura Pure White Shining

This is a specialist in my collection and has the best string timbre I’ve ever heard. Excels with solo and small ensemble classical and female vocals. Not a Bud for pop, rock, or anything with too much energy or a lot going on. This is a timbre/tonality king and meant for intimate listening of the highest pedigree.

#4 TGXear Tantalus

An oldie but a remarkable listen when powered properly. This is a recent discovery as I used to own this bud and I sold it due to hearing it muddy and bloated…Re purchased recently as I have a better DAP with better integrated power and Tantalus sounds like an Aroma Jewel in earbud form. Seductive timbre in male and female vocals. Resolving and sparkling treble. Great Modal Jazz bud!

#5 Venture Electronics Zen SU or Shining Ultimate

This is another new bud in my collection and while it sounds GRAND and oozing with warmth I’m still wrapping my head around it. @ian91 was correct in saying it rocks with music from Tool! This bud has some of the most correct sounding guitar tone (electric and acoustic alike) I’ve heard in any monitor, Bud or headphone! Female vocals are favored here and a calling card I’ve noticed with VE. I def hear a house sound in this flagship bud. I still need to run through my library but it’s already a favorite!

This list is subject to change and/or rearrange

Buds I most want to hear:
Yinman 2.0 600ohm
Shozy BK
Puresounds 100-500,600
Ksearphone Bell-Ti+, DBX
Simphonio Dragon 3+
FQL BlueMoon
Yuin PK1
Ucotech Es-P2

Way to busy lately. Had a long session with SU before I had to remove my listening corner from the living room. Some long overdue refurbish of floor and painting I promised wife 1 week break from hard to drive stuff now.

Zen SU do have much of that rich Zen line sound, with full bass specially mid bass but also some sub. Mids also being in the thicker side.

Don't try with any Tool but I listened to some doom metal and it was very impressive. Actually very similar to FranQL Caelum with just more mid warmth on SU.

Hope you get to try the Blue Moon one day since you love APWS, biggest change for me is that APWS is slightly more bright while the Blue Moon have better textured low range.

The Sun Copper is next in line for me to play with, the short listen it seemed very good also. And the price more easy to justify



Anyway try this on SU, not many buds that suit this type of music and SU do excellent here.

 

[kanett]

A Silly question
If I have 350mw dongle. What earbud Ohm should I buy? 64ohm, 300ohm, or 600 ohm.

 

[Kordonrules]

Wow awesome collections right there but I have other addictions (aka hobbies) to feed

 

[Kordonrules]

MY TOP 3 :

#1 Cypherus Audio Susvara Black Dragon
#2 Venture Electronics APWS
#3 TGXear Desolation Sound

But I only have these 3 ...
I flinched on the fact that I only now wanted earbuds (after headphones, iems and the whole "Circus") and I've just bought Technics TZ700, I don't regret it, they're not conventional IEMs, they're very easy to wear but the fact that they plane the lower part requires a cable search and there it is again... or not!

Yes, fixed-cable earbuds are my conclusion.

How was the fit and finish on your Black Dragon? Do you hate the cable as others?