Earbuds Round-Up
Feb 19, 2021 at 10:46 AM Post #52,441 of 75,538
I usually just put one set of VE foams on, more for comfort than anything else. I've never had it feel like any sort of seal, though; they just kind of sit on my ear.
yup, thats correct. You are definitely not getting the same "seal" feeling as on iems.

With iems you are more isolated, but with buds you feel more exposed to the world.
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 10:51 AM Post #52,442 of 75,538
I can't wear IEMs, they really mess with my ears. I'd concluded that I was stuck with full-sized headphones for the rest of my life until I recently rediscovered earbuds. So far I've only got the Monk+ and Snow Lotus 1.0 but they just sound so different when compared to headphones - in a good way. The soundstage, even on these $10 buds, is just completely addictive. Looking at your list, I may have to save up for a pair of Toneking Dendroaspis Viridis if just for that gorgeous green!
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 10:53 AM Post #52,443 of 75,538
I can't wear IEMs, they really mess with my ears. I'd concluded that I was stuck with full-sized headphones for the rest of my life until I recently rediscovered earbuds. So far I've only got the Monk+ and Snow Lotus 1.0 but they just sound so different when compared to headphones - in a good way. The soundstage, even on these $10 buds, is just completely addictive. Looking at your list, I may have to save up for a pair of Toneking Dendroaspis Viridis if just for that gorgeous green!
If you want the best combination and with as few buds as possible. I would go for the Yincrow X6 and the Toneking Dendroaspis Viridis. They are polar opposites and complement each others weaknesses very well.
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 11:29 AM Post #52,445 of 75,538
That will take some time... I got a little carried away and have already ordered the "Earbuds Anonymous" and Smabat ST-10S from Penon, as well as a pair of Blurs. It seems there's always another rabbit-hole in audio...

Oh yes. At least get the X6. I'm pleasantly surprised when I received them last week.
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 1:51 PM Post #52,446 of 75,538
Alright, since we cant create polls directly here. I made one here: http://www.strawpoll.me/42665519

It is about bringing back the NiceHCK ME80 since it is discontinued right now.

Please vote and if a lot of people wants it then I will ask NiceHCK to bring it back (and show the poll to them).
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 1:57 PM Post #52,447 of 75,538
Alright, since we cant create polls directly here. I made one here: http://www.strawpoll.me/42665519

It is about bringing back the NiceHCK ME80 since it is discontinued right now.

Please vote and if a lot of people wants it then I will ask NiceHCK to bring it back (and show the poll to them).
If you only get a few votes, maybe you could ask him to make a few more pairs for us :wink:
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 1:59 PM Post #52,448 of 75,538
If you only get a few votes, maybe you could ask him to make a few more pairs for us :wink:
I believe with most of these budget stuff, they produce them in large batches, so thats why they are so cheap.
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 2:08 PM Post #52,449 of 75,538
Alright, since we cant create polls directly here. I made one here: http://www.strawpoll.me/42665519

It is about bringing back the NiceHCK ME80 since it is discontinued right now.

Please vote and if a lot of people wants it then I will ask NiceHCK to bring it back (and show the poll to them).
Voted. Might be smart if Jim made a version with a mic as well.
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 2:10 PM Post #52,450 of 75,538
Voted. Might be smart if Jim made a version with a mic as well.
I want it to have an mmcx connector. But I take it as it is, if they just bring it back... :sob:
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 2:49 PM Post #52,451 of 75,538
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MDR-E SERIES INTRODUCTION
Sony debuted it's first "earbud" type ear receiver the MDR-E252 in June 1982 and thus began the earphone line we now know as the "MDR-E Series". However, there was an even earlier, and little known, "on-ear" model line that came before the MDR-E252 in June 1981; the Ear Hook Ear Receiver series which was composed of two models, the MDR-E3 Mono Ear Hook and MDR-E33 Stereo Ear Hook. There was also a mono earbud "Side Earplug" model line that debuted later in 1985. So the MDR-E Series Earphone Product Line is actually composed of three (3) different headphone types: the "Ear Hook" ear receiver, the "Earbud" earphone, and the mono "Side Earplug" (see all the model series and numbers down below in the "MDR-E SERIES MODEL NUMBERS" section).


MDR-E SERIES NAMING NOMENCLATURE
The MDR-E Series adhered to the following naming convention system from 1981 until about 2005/6...

MDR-E252B

"MDR" is the universal prefix designator for all Sony headsets since October 1978 when Sony first introduced the iconic Walkman "H-Air" compact on-ear headphone series (MDR-E3 and MDR-E5). Previously, Sony headset products used the "DR" designation (e.g. Sony's first headphone, the DR-4A, released in July 1968). "E" means "ear receiver" aka "earphone". "MDR-E" is typically followed by three (3) digits and then followed by various alphanumerics. The first digit "2" identifies this as being of the "2 Series" and is an overall indicator of the date of manufacture by series order (2 being the earliest in the series and 9 being the latest); the second digit "5" is for "status/model type" (a higher number being a more advanced higher-end model and a lower number a more basic low-end type); the third digit "2" if the same as the first digit (as in this case) means it is of the "mainstream line" (as in being of the same base model line) but if it is a different digit from the first digit it would then indicate that it is part of a "collateral secondary model line" running parallel to the base model line of that particular series. Following the three digits are the alphanumerics of varying combinations representing different versions usually related to shell color, plug type, cable type, etc. In this case, the "B" is for black shell color.

MDR-E SERIES NAMING KEY
MDR-EMicro Dynamic Receiver Earphone
NUDENatural Unequalled Dynamic Ear
BBlack
CBone Conduction (e.g. MDR-E140C Mono Side Earplug)
DGray or Metallic
DM/DM1Sony Digital Media proprietary plug; remote control compatible with Discman D515/311/302
EXExtra Edition (may be an upgraded cable and/or carrying case)
GGold or Golden Limited Edition (e.g. MDR-E888G)
GGray for some series lines like the MDR-E222G
IWhite Green (only used for MDR-E265I)
LBlue
LCLong Cord/Long Cable
LPL-Type Plug
MMicro Plug
MPMicro Plug aka "Black Pin" (Made in Japan Only)
MP1Micro Plug (Version Made in China)
NGreen
PPink
RRed
RDRed
RVRemote Volume Controller (In-Line)
RVFRemote Volume Function Controller (In-Line; e.g. MDR-E472RVF)
SSilver
SPStraight Plug aka Standard Plug
VVolume Adjuster/Control (In-Line)
VViolet
YYellow (usually waterproof "Sport" models)
XLLight or Dark Blue (depending on series)
XNLight or Dark Green (depending on series)
XOOrange
XPLight Pink or Hot Pink (depending on series)
XRDark Red (e.g. MDR-E222XR)
XYYellow
WWhite
ZLDark Blue / Light Blue (depending on series)
ZNDark Green


MDR-E SERIES MODEL NUMBERS
"Ear Hook" Ear Receiver Series
; 1981-2007
E2/3/5/22/33


"Earbud" Earphone Series; 1982-2005/6
Series 2XX; 1982-1991/2
E211/212/213/214/215/222/225/228/232/238/242/245/248/252/255/262/265/268/272/275/278/282

Series 4XX; 1987-1997
E414/424/434/444/454/464/472/484

Series 5XX; 1989-1998
E505/515/525/535/545/551/552/555/557/560/562/565/575

Series 7XX; 1992-2000/1
E717/727/737/741/742/743/747/755/757

Series 8XX; 1995-2001/2
E801/802/803/805/806/807/808/809/811/817/818/819/821/823/827/828/829/832/837/838/847/848/868/888

Series 9XX; 2003-2005/6
E930/931/0931


Mono "Side Earplug" Series; 1985-1997/8
E121/122/123/140C/141/142/143/148/152/165/195


This would have been a great post to get information from when I was collecting vintage earbuds a few years ago.

E484 are great, as is E282. Somehow I kind of prefered E252. Now the prices of vintage earbuds have shot up even more than around 5-10 years ago when I was trying to find all the best Aiwa and Sony buds.
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 3:47 PM Post #52,452 of 75,538
I want it to have an mmcx connector. But I take it as it is, if they just bring it back... :sob:
Then it might be better to bring the original EBX back to life. You have my vote :ballot_box_with_check:
 
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Feb 19, 2021 at 3:50 PM Post #52,453 of 75,538
Then it might be better to bring the original EBX back to life. You have my vote :ballot_box_with_check:
Haven't heard that one lol. They seem to be discontinuing a lot of stuff that people consider good?
 
Feb 19, 2021 at 3:58 PM Post #52,454 of 75,538
Haven't heard that one lol. They seem to be discontinuing a lot of stuff that people consider good?
OG EBX is their previous flagship. If they bring it back, it will probably jeopardize the sale of the current favorite. But in my estimation, OG EBX could be in the range of $50-70 and ME80 < $15
 
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Feb 19, 2021 at 9:15 PM Post #52,455 of 75,538
Just looked at amazon japan and it seems that the NiceHCK ME80 is sold out now. You guys that have it should cherish it forever, the tuning is exceptionally good.

It is diminishing the value of the EBX21 a lot....

The tonality is similar between the 2 earbuds, but EBX 21 kills the ME80 in technicalities by a lot. And of course it is detachable, unlike the ME80. Does that explain a more than 10 times price differential? Probably not, but as usual in this audio hobby, there's huge diminishing returns the higher one goes up the ladder.

That will take some time... I got a little carried away and have already ordered the "Earbuds Anonymous" and Smabat ST-10S from Penon, as well as a pair of Blurs. It seems there's always another rabbit-hole in audio...

SMABAT ST10S (assuming it is the black gold version) will need an amp, hope u have a good source to power it.

As for the earbuds anonymous, if you could cancel your order, I hope it is possible to do that. I found it very anonymous as per its namesake. L shaped bassy set with missing treble and it is quite muddy. Non detachable cable too at $50 USD. One of my worse earbud buys in recent times.

I believe with most of these budget stuff, they produce them in large batches, so thats why they are so cheap.

Ya I actually asked them on Aliexpress if they could remake the ME80 again.

But the sellers say, for economies of scale, the various China factories produce many pieces of drivers and shells at one time, and it is cheaper to get it in bulk. They need a bare minimum order of perhaps a few hundreds to thousands. So if only a few die hard earbud fans like us ask for it, but it doesn't even cross a hundred folks, they will most likely not even entertain the idea.

The other issue is that some parts are kind of limited edition. For example, factory A only produces the driver, factory B only makes the cable, factory C only makes the shells. Even if they wanted to restart a new production line for the ME80, sometimes one of these factories has closed permanently or the moulds are lost or something. So perhaps the same shell or driver cannot be obtained anymore. And so if a different shell or driver comes in the new remake, perhaps the sound will be different too.

There's lots of forum reports that the new Tingo TC200 sounds different from the old version. Probably the hype made the old one get sold out, and the factories are rushing to make new stock for more orders, but probably something is different internally in the new batches.
 

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