[Sam L]

Lowered all earbuds ranks by 1 (except the DQSM Turandot which got dropped from B+ to C-) and added the Toneking Dendroaspis Viridis rank S.
Consider it a teaser for my upcoming review of the Viridis.

By the way, thank you for reviewing earbuds. I'm sure we all appreciate your efforts to bring more exposure to the format.

 

[RikudouGoku]

By the way, thank you for reviewing earbuds. I'm sure we all appreciate your efforts to bring more exposure to the format.

Np, I agree that earbuds and headphones as well needs more exposure when it comes to chi-fi. (headphones are dominated by non-chifi brands while buds....dont get a lot of new buds at all...)

 

[furyossa]

Lowered all earbuds ranks by 1 (except the DQSM Turandot which got dropped from B+ to C-) and added the Toneking Dendroaspis Viridis rank S.
Consider it a teaser for my upcoming review of the Viridis.

Thanks for sharing this with us. You mentioned earlier (first impression) that bass has average quality. I hope that will change a little later, after the break-in period.
We recently discussed about bass vent on the front cover. I wonder if the diameter of the hole is reduced, whether it will affect the bass quantity itself.
This can be done with insulating tape and a small hole in the middle.

 

[RikudouGoku]

Thanks for sharing this with us. You mentioned earlier (first impression) that bass has average quality. I hope that will change a little later, after the break-in period.
We recently discussed about bass vent on the front cover. I wonder if the diameter of the hole is reduced, whether it will affect the bass quantity itself.
This can be done with insulating tape and a small hole in the middle.

It looks like the bass isnt coming from the center though. And I very much doubt the bass quantity will increase (i am not a believer of burn in) and if it did, it has to increase by a lot to make a difference on recing it or not (for bassy genres, like Hip-hop, EDM).


The vocals on these are really intoxicating.

 

[furyossa]

It looks like the bass isnt coming from the center though. And I very much doubt the bass quantity will increase (i am not a believer of burn in) and if it did, it has to increase by a lot to make a difference on recing it or not (for bassy genres, like Hip-hop, EDM).


The vocals on these are really intoxicating.

I'm still amazed with that positioning
This type of shell, especially when there is no vent at the rear side, in most cases allow for a little more intimate sound, better mids, precise imaging, and wide soundstage.
Of course, it also depends on the driver itself. Is it the same in this case?

 

[RikudouGoku]

I'm still amazed with that positioning
This type of shell, especially when there is no vent at the rear side, in most cases allow for a little more intimate sound, better mids, precise imaging, and wide soundstage.
Of course, it also depends on the driver itself. Is it the same in this case?

Soundstage isnt much wider than the NiceHCK MX500 but it is deeper and is the first bud I have experienced some slight holographic effect with.

Imaging isnt anything special, sure it is better than the ones I have but it wont make you go wow over it...(guess the LZ A7 has increased my standards a lot lol)

Mids are godly though, the best of all my buds.

 

[Sam L]

It looks like the bass isnt coming from the center though. And I very much doubt the bass quantity will increase (i am not a believer of burn in) and if it did, it has to increase by a lot to make a difference on recing it or not (for bassy genres, like Hip-hop, EDM).


The vocals on these are really intoxicating.

I would think the bass would be focused in the center?

 

[furyossa]

I would think the bass would be focused in the center?

The marking in this picture is very strange. I hope someone who is an expert for speakers can explain this positioning

 

[RikudouGoku]

The marking in this picture is very strange. I hope someone who is an expert for speakers can explain this positioning

yeah, I got confused as well. Since I believe on 2.0 speakers, the bigger hole should be taking care of the bass. But on those pictures the treble is coming out of the center hole and then mids, bass the further away you are.

 

[assassin10000]

There is probably no separation of where bass/mids/treble exits. The diaphragm moves air to produce sound waves and it comes out all 3 areas. It's not like it has 3 BA drivers and sound tubes.

Maybe in slightly different quantities due to the size of the openings, as the larger center will allow easier airflow due to less resistance. But all frequencies will be included. IMO.



Also @furyossa there is a rear vent. Just hard to see in most of their stock photos. toneking likes their vent near the connector and on the backside of the driver on many of their designs.

 

[RikudouGoku]

There is probably no separation of where bass/mids/treble exits. The diaphragm moves air to produce sound waves and it comes out all 3 areas. It's not like it has 3 BA drivers and sound tubes.

Maybe in slightly different quantities due to the size of the openings, as the larger center will allow easier airflow due to less resistance. But all frequencies will be included. IMO.



Also @furyossa there is a rear vent. Just hard to see in most of their stock photos. toneking likes their vent near the connector and on the backside of the driver on many of their designs.

hahaha, just noticed that vent lol. It is covered by the foam though.

 

[assassin10000]

hahaha, just noticed that vent lol. It is covered by the foam though.

Yeah, earbud foams are porous enough that it should have very little to no effect on how the earbud sounds. At least in my experience after tuning DIY earbuds.


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I've been enjoying my DIY TWS buds made with a pair of X12 Pro and a 14.8mm 40Ω PU/Ti driver the last couple of days.

 

[furyossa]

Also @furyossa there is a rear vent. Just hard to see in most of their stock photos. toneking likes their vent near the connector and on the backside of the driver on many of their designs.

You already know what I mean by "rear" vent. Not that vent. Also, this vent is 80% blocked by ear especially if worn str8-up

 

[assassin10000]

You already know what I mean by "rear" vent. Not that vent. Also, this vent is 80% blocked by ear especially if worn str8-up

Yeah. Your style rear vent makes (to me) an overly warm muddy sound signature. But that could just be the drivers I tried it with didn't pair well with that kind of rear air flow.

Or you know, just our personal preferences differ.


Give that the vent is aligned with the mmcx, the vent sits at the intertragic notch when worn down and probably exposed enough to work properly. They use the same spot on many of their buds. If it was on the left or right I'd be worried.

 

[furyossa]

There is probably no separation of where bass/mids/treble exits. The diaphragm moves air to produce sound waves and it comes out all 3 areas. It's not like it has 3 BA drivers and sound tubes.

Maybe in slightly different quantities due to the size of the openings, as the larger center will allow easier airflow due to less resistance. But all frequencies will be included. IMO.

And you are right about this. There is literally no way to perform 3 frequency separation here.
In this way, the amount of sound wave is only directed more centrally than laterally, as is the case with MX500 or PK cover.