[jogawag]

Anyone have a link to some good foam covers? I bought these last time and they're pretty bad, they get very stretched out/loose and fall apart/start to disintegrate plus they tear easy:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/329...earchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Please keep in mind that this Trig Rain official store's foams are great quality and are a regular fixture for the residents of this thread.
These foams are middle thick.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32671911259.html

 

[rprodrigues]

In terms of comfort, I don't have the RW-9 but as I own other earbuds with the MX500 shell, I find it to be more comfortable for my ears. The ME80 on the other hand are rather large and have a little weight to them, I can only wear them for short listening sessions (~30mins) which is a shame because they do sound good.

YMMW

I have the same experience. The RW-9 (or any MX500 earbuds) are more comfortable, lighter, and have a more stable fit than the heavier and larger ME80 shells.

Both are excellent and are incredible bargains though.

I have fit issues even with MX500 shells, so ME80 might be a problem.
I need something with a 16mm shell, as the old pk1 shells.

 

[jogawag]

Wait, what? The me80 could be discontinued? Did you see that somewhere?

Sorry, I just thought it might be discontinued because NiceHCK is leaving it sold out despite its good reputation in this way.
Even though NiceHCK B40 is available in stores that don't seem to have much to do with it.

I have fit issues even with MX500 shells, so ME80 might be a problem.
I need something with a 16mm shell, as the old pk1 shells.

Then I recommend you NiceHCK B40 as the pk1 shells’ famous newtral one.

 

[Sam L]

I have fit issues even with MX500 shells, so ME80 might be a problem.
I need something with a 16mm shell, as the old pk1 shells.

Ah, bummer... I would be interested in hearing other's suggestions re: their favorite pk shell iems. I have the Pk2 and find them to be extremely comfortable, though I wouldn't recommend them.

 

[rprodrigues]

Ah, bummer... I would be interested in hearing other's suggestions re: their favorite pk shell iems. I have the Pk2 and find them to be extremely comfortable, though I wouldn't recommend them.

Why not? Aren't they good?

 

[Sam L]

Why not? Aren't they good?

More of the same lower mid bloat.

 

[alvinlim2010]

People here have recommended foams from trigrain. I'd stay away from the bright reds though, it seems they tear more easily than blues, blacks, or dark reds - at least from the batch that I bought.

It took me awhile to figure out how to salvage the reds (I got a 50 pack, so I was motivated to figure out how to make them work.) I pre-stretch the foams from center to edge by grabbing the center with one hand and the edge with my other hand. You have to do this carefully and slowly, and rotate the foam around little by little. I found that if I grabbed the foam from edge to edge, the center portion would rip too easily.

And the red ones do stain if you mix them with white foam

 

[Sam L]

Why not? Aren't they good?

From the buds I have, these do not suffer from lower mid bloat.
X6
Rw9
Bk2
Me80

These are warmer buds with thicker lower mids.
Monk plus
Monk lite
Faeeal snow lotus 1+
Fengru emx500
Rambo 2
K's nameless

Sorry, I just thought it might be discontinued because NiceHCK is leaving it sold out despite its good reputation in this way.
Even though NiceHCK B40 is available in stores that don't seem to have much to do with it.




Then I recommend you NiceHCK B40 as the pk1 shells’ famous newtral one.

Ah that's right, forgot about the b40. @rprodrigues , the b40 does not have lower mid bloat. I've been meaning to get another pair without mic because mine (w/mic) have upper mid channel imbalance.

 

[rprodrigues]

@Sam L
Do B40 lack treble?

 

[Sam L]

Why not? Aren't they good?

For me, this is the main reason I can not recommend the yuin Pk2.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds-round-up.441400/page-3307#post-15900768

In summary, there's a 2.5khz notch that can't be corrected without messing up other parts of the spectrum. There's always a give and take to work through.

 

[Sam L]

@Sam L
Do B40 lack treble?

Ummm... Haven't listened to the b40 In a couple months but if I remember correctly they have decent treble extension. I have a graph of the b40 on my computer at home. I'll put together a frequency comparison of the b40, x6, rw9 and me80 on one graph when I get home.

 

[assassin10000]

I have fit issues even with MX500 shells, so ME80 might be a problem.
I need something with a 16mm shell, as the old pk1 shells.

Then I recommend you NiceHCK B40 as the pk1 shells’ famous newtral one.

B40 is 16.7mm, it has a larger modified shell. It is very close to the 16.8mm of mx500 type shells. I found them uncomfortable for long sessions and sold mine.

It is not 16.1mm like most PK shells.

For me, this is the main reason I can not recommend the yuin Pk2.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds-round-up.441400/page-3307#post-15900768

In summary, there's a 2.5khz notch that can't be corrected without messing up other parts of the spectrum. There's always a give and take to work through.

Yeah, you must have the newer PK2 drivers. My older version didn't have that problem. I already sold them or I'd remeasure them.

 

[alvinlim2010]

For me, this is the main reason I can not recommend the yuin Pk2.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds-round-up.441400/page-3307#post-15900768

In summary, there's a 2.5khz notch that can't be corrected without messing up other parts of the spectrum. There's always a give and take to work through.

I dont have that issue with my PK2 too, though i owned it for near a decade i think

 

[Sam L]

I dont have that issue with my PK2 too, though i owned it for near a decade i think

Ah, i got mine a couple months ago. I have a feeling the newer pk2's sound different from the older ones.

@assassin10000 did your Pk2 sound more similar to the me80 or the monk plus?

 

[assassin10000]

Ah, i got mine a couple months ago. I have a feeling the newer pk2's sound different from the older ones.

@assassin10000 did your Pk2 sound more similar to the me80 or the monk plus?

It was not similar to the me80. Never heard the monk+ so I couldn't say. It wasn't similar to the either RY4S though, which I found a bit harsh/fatiguing.

It was warm, smooth but still had some detail and treble, easy to listen for long sessions. Had the typical rolled off sub-bass of smaller 14.8mm drivers but bass was in good quantity.