Earbuds Round-Up
Nov 26, 2021 at 2:11 PM Post #59,056 of 75,148
Thank you example if i can travel to Singapore. Do you know where to try his product or contact to buy from him ?
He is a one-person business. Actually it is probably more like an enthusiast hobby for him (I don't think it's possible to make a living from building custom earbuds). He runs his business from his Facebook page and that is the way to contact him. You can ask if he is willing to meet with you in Singapore.

If you haven't seen it, there is a Blur earbuds thread and it has contact information:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/blur-earbuds-lovers.884062/
 
Nov 26, 2021 at 8:33 PM Post #59,057 of 75,148
Add me to the earbud convert list!

Really enjoying the Yincrow X6 that you guys recommended. Have been using them with my Xduoo MT-602 amp. A bit of extra power really opens the X6 up.

Comfort isn't great for me, I must have strange shape ears.
Going to order some Hiegi foam and silicon rings to see if that helps. Will have a play with double foaming to see if that helps.

Going to be hard to resist buying a few pairs of random cheapo buds over the next few days! Maybe some of these:
- LBBS
- RW9
- Faaeal rosemary
- Vido
- Jcally EP05 or EP09
- Quan39

Are either of the cheap VE's worth adding to that list (Monk plus or Lite)?
Ordered LBBS, monk lite and plus.
Only ordered plus as I wanted to try both dongles (Avani and Abigail) VE are selling. Adding the plus hit a coupon level that made it a no brainer.
Down another rabbit hole I go! Luckily the price of top earbuds is way below that of top headphones or iems!
 
Nov 26, 2021 at 10:42 PM Post #59,058 of 75,148
I am having trouble using my new Moondrop Chaconne earbuds. No matter what I do, they slowly-or quickly!-drift away from my ear, destroying the frequency response and volume. They hang in there lightly. But I am sure that is not the way it is supposed to be. I have tried pulling my ear upwards or downwards-it makes no difference. Once I feel "got it!" they start lossening up again. It cannot be that they are defective or ill designed. Suspecting user error or too large ears. But from this thread I got the impression that earbuds were "shoot and forget". It seems they are much harder than fitting an ER4SR, which is an easier experience for me.

I have zero (or do not recall) experience with earbuds, so if someone has an idea what I could be doing wrong, please let me know. Holding them in place they do sound amazing indeed, and it's a gift from tips I received by taking care of pets, so I have no desire to part with them. Want to make them work regardless my ear anatomy. Any help is deeply appreciated! I am a bit frustrated because I expected a much easier fit, since I have zero problems fitting all of my IEMs.

And I do not mean to throw any shade to the Chaconne model. It sounds surprisingly excellent when they are "in place". I am not even sure how they are "supposed to sound", however, due to the fitting issue.

Thanks to any and all that can offer their earbud experience. This is my real first one, and it is not cheap. Happy Holidays, and stay safe.
 
Nov 26, 2021 at 11:04 PM Post #59,059 of 75,148
I am having trouble using my new Moondrop Chaconne earbuds. No matter what I do, they slowly-or quickly!-drift away from my ear, destroying the frequency response and volume. They hang in there lightly. But I am sure that is not the way it is supposed to be. I have tried pulling my ear upwards or downwards-it makes no difference. Once I feel "got it!" they start lossening up again. It cannot be that they are defective or ill designed. Suspecting user error or too large ears. But from this thread I got the impression that earbuds were "shoot and forget". It seems they are much harder than fitting an ER4SR, which is an easier experience for me.

I have zero (or do not recall) experience with earbuds, so if someone has an idea what I could be doing wrong, please let me know. Holding them in place they do sound amazing indeed, and it's a gift from tips I received by taking care of pets, so I have no desire to part with them. Want to make them work regardless my ear anatomy. Any help is deeply appreciated! I am a bit frustrated because I expected a much easier fit, since I have zero problems fitting all of my IEMs.

And I do not mean to throw any shade to the Chaconne model. It sounds surprisingly excellent when they are "in place". I am not even sure how they are "supposed to sound", however, due to the fitting issue.

Thanks to any and all that can offer their earbud experience. This is my real first one, and it is not cheap. Happy Holidays, and stay safe.
You need to use foams if you want them to grip and stay in your ear. If one foam is noy enough try to combine donut and a full foam. Sound may suffer a bit but that is the solution. Or order some silicone rings for earbuds, idk if they come with them or not.
 
Nov 27, 2021 at 2:23 AM Post #59,061 of 75,148
I ended up *re-buying* the Fiio EM5 because of the black friday sale and I think it sounds better than what I originally thought the first time I got them, but they still are congested sounding. The vocal timbre is just not on the level of moondrop chaconne or LBBS, it is too husky sounding to the point of near buzziness. It does seem to resolve pretty well, or at least I get a better sense of microdetail than some of my other buds, but I think it can get fatiguing and are for sounds I don’t really care about or value. For instance, snares have a snappier sound to them and more texture, I can hear the echo/reverb of them a little better than say, the Newbsound 32pro. But when I compare to the Newbsound 32pro, the EM5 has slightly less bass quantity, extension, impact, and texture. And 32pro vocals are sweeter/not as dry, have a more natural timbre and the treble is smoother (although, combined with the bigger bass, its harder to make out microdetail).

So I’m not sure what the EM5’s niche is. The tuning is.. odd, but not.. bad, but at $200 it doesnt do bass as well as $75 newbsounds or vocals as well as $320 chaconne. I am not sure what to make of it. I have not done any burn in, so I’ll start doing that now, but because it is the worst fitting bud I own, I don’t know if I’d keep it AGAIN haha. I just wanted to try it again because it was getting so much praise in this thread that maybe I missed something the first time. Who can EM5 pill me?
 
Nov 27, 2021 at 3:27 AM Post #59,062 of 75,148
I ended up *re-buying* the Fiio EM5 because of the black friday sale and I think it sounds better than what I originally thought the first time I got them, but they still are congested sounding. The vocal timbre is just not on the level of moondrop chaconne or LBBS, it is too husky sounding to the point of near buzziness. It does seem to resolve pretty well, or at least I get a better sense of microdetail than some of my other buds, but I think it can get fatiguing and are for sounds I don’t really care about or value. For instance, snares have a snappier sound to them and more texture, I can hear the echo/reverb of them a little better than say, the Newbsound 32pro. But when I compare to the Newbsound 32pro, the EM5 has slightly less bass quantity, extension, impact, and texture. And 32pro vocals are sweeter/not as dry, have a more natural timbre and the treble is smoother (although, combined with the bigger bass, its harder to make out microdetail).

So I’m not sure what the EM5’s niche is. The tuning is.. odd, but not.. bad, but at $200 it doesnt do bass as well as $75 newbsounds or vocals as well as $320 chaconne. I am not sure what to make of it. I have not done any burn in, so I’ll start doing that now, but because it is the worst fitting bud I own, I don’t know if I’d keep it AGAIN haha. I just wanted to try it again because it was getting so much praise in this thread that maybe I missed something the first time. Who can EM5 pill me?
The FiiO EM5, like the Moondrop Chaconne, is not an all-rounder per se but rather a one or two-trick pony. It is wonderful for specific music genres and/or preference'd signature tastes but will fail miserably for all-use purposes. It is most definitely a nice accompanying earbud to have in your collection for specific roles.
 
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Nov 27, 2021 at 10:13 AM Post #59,064 of 75,148
The FiiO EM5, like the Moondrop Chaconne, is not an all-rounder per se but rather a one or two-trick pony. It is wonderful for specific music genres and/or preference'd signature tastes but will fail miserably for all-use purposes. It is most definitely a nice accompanying earbud to have in your collection for specific roles.
i have no problem with that, but i still cant figure out what role it fills or pony it would trick? what would be good for them?
 
Nov 27, 2021 at 11:41 AM Post #59,065 of 75,148
listening with X6 😎
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Nov 27, 2021 at 12:37 PM Post #59,066 of 75,148
i have no problem with that, but i still cant figure out what role it fills or pony it would trick? what would be good for them?

Modern classical, ambient etc for me - especially where there might be field recordings and samples - so quite visceral with intricate details, perfect for EM5 and Chaconne. For example:

 
Nov 27, 2021 at 12:51 PM Post #59,067 of 75,148
Thank you so much; ordering some silicone rings from Amazon that may or not be good quality. Aliexpress seems to take forever to ship to US unless you use DHL at an inflated price (I know it should not be $50 for shipping, even DHL, so someone is taking advantage of the customer.)

In the while, for those familiar with the Chaconnw shape, is there a manual or fitting guide to make sure I just do not know how to use them properly? I have large ears, and use ML or large sized tips for IEMs depending on brand, but it seems the Chaconne are large enough. Or maybe they aren't really? Treat me as someone that has never used this shape before.

Google is utterly useless, as the popularity of airpods, galaxy buds, "true wireless" etc. makes it so that I cannot even search for foams, rings, etc. anywhere. Are there specific terms to search for for this type of shape?

Yes, I sound like I was born yesterday. Just flabbergasted by the fitting. Not sure of the type of sound I should expect. Pressing on the ear sounds different than "mid insertion", and just hanging in there does not seem to be right either. My apologies and thanks.
 
Nov 27, 2021 at 12:58 PM Post #59,068 of 75,148
Don't worry, the Chaconne are not the friendliest to fit because they have this linear angle from the 'face' of the buds which isn't really ergonomic. Combined with the heavier titanium shell and the extended stems, there's just a lot of weight without a lot of grip to deal with.

I used to have really bad fit with Chaconne, but now it's improved using HieGi full foams (which also adds warmth to them and gives them a nicer balanced tonality imo). My tip for putting in earbuds is to find the angle or position of your head where they tend to fall out. For me, this is when I look up. Then, put your head in that position and insert them where they feel the most secure -- in my instance, they're angled a little diagonally so that the stem sits in the 'notch' of your ear down by the earlobe (intertragic notch). I try to get them as angled down as much as possible so theres less torque from the weight of the stem + cable to rotate them down and out of your ear. You want to avoid having the stems facing too far forward and up.

So by securing the buds in the position they're most likely to fall out in, then returning to a neutral position, they should be pretty stable. YMMV but that's what works for me
 
Nov 27, 2021 at 1:00 PM Post #59,069 of 75,148
Modern classical, ambient etc for me - especially where there might be field recordings and samples - so quite visceral with intricate details, perfect for EM5 and Chaconne. For example:


thanks, unfortunately i dont listen to either of those genres lol. Now that you have the Chaconne, LBBS, 32pro, and your EM5 is out of commission, would you bother picking up another pair or are you happy with the first three to cover your bases? I have those 3 as well and am struggling to find a place for the EM5. If I can't figure them out after burn in I'll return them again, but at least give myself credit for giving them a second chance and confirming my impressions with my own ears and library.
 
Nov 27, 2021 at 1:11 PM Post #59,070 of 75,148
thanks, unfortunately i dont listen to either of those genres lol. Now that you have the Chaconne, LBBS, 32pro, and your EM5 is out of commission, would you bother picking up another pair or are you happy with the first three to cover your bases? I have those 3 as well and am struggling to find a place for the EM5. If I can't figure them out after burn in I'll return them again, but at least give myself credit for giving them a second chance and confirming my impressions with my own ears and library.

Yeah that's why they hit a sweet spot for me and definitely fall into a specialist niche - I love music like that while working, going to sleep or just generally relaxing - they are tuned perfectly (for my ears) for that type of music, plus the fact that they are so light and a fantastic cable. The Chaconne does those genres too - but clearly not as comfortable so I will most likely buy the EM5 at some point!

I'm a big fan of single DD IEMs too and have been testing a tour unit of the new(ish) DUNU ZEN PRO over the last few days, incredible IEM and has me fixated on DD IEMs again! - much prefer to hybrids or multi BA etc. Clearly buds are a not-too-distant relative anyway.
 

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