Earbuds Round-Up
Jun 12, 2018 at 7:31 AM Post #31,996 of 75,317
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20180612_161407_HDR_Film3.jpg Cygnus from the interior. It had a channel imbalance Trying to fix it I opened the left side. But now it has no sound at all. I will try to put another driver in it. Sad It sounded so good but I will try to do some diy earbuds
 
Jun 12, 2018 at 10:52 AM Post #32,000 of 75,317
Jun 12, 2018 at 1:35 PM Post #32,002 of 75,317
Just got my pk32s today.

Quick impressions (without any foams): cable seems pretty nice and flexible. Doesn't appear to have a lot of memory so far. Sound is fairly neutral. Highs have a bit of sparkle to them, not too fatiguing. Sub bass is a little lacking. Could do with more oomph. Soundstage and instrumental separation is good/alright depending on track (could just be the tracks I listen to).

Will play around with some foams and hopefully will have the time to post again.

EDIT: Bass is much better with the included foams. Also, the part above where I said bass was a little lacking, turns out it was a mistake on my part. I was playing a different part of the song which I thought should have a bit more bass. Listening again, it seems pretty good. Enough of a punch, maybe even a rumble for me in some areas. Could still have a touch more extension IMO. Also, they're really easy to drive. I'm using them with my O2 and I've only turned the knob around one and a quarter notches (from 6 o'clock to around 7.15/730).

tl;dr: Use them with the foams guys
 
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Jun 12, 2018 at 2:07 PM Post #32,003 of 75,317
Just got my pk32s today.

Quick impressions (without any foams): cable seems pretty nice and flexible. Doesn't appear to have a lot of memory so far. Sound is fairly neutral. Highs have a bit of sparkle to them, not too fatiguing. Sub bass is a little lacking. Could do with more oomph. Soundstage and instrumental separation is good/alright depending on track (could just be the tracks I listen to).

Will play around with some foams and hopefully will have the time to post again.

EDIT: Bass is much better with the included foams. Also, the part above where I said bass was a little lacking, turns out it was a mistake on my part. I was playing a different part of the song which I thought should have a bit more bass. Listening again, it seems pretty good. Enough of a punch, maybe even a rumble for me in some areas. Could still have a touch more extension IMO. Also, they're really easy to drive. I'm using them with my O2 and I've only turned the knob around one and a quarter notches (from 6 o'clock to around 7.15/730).

tl;dr: Use them with the foams guys
I plan on trying them with the super thin aliexpress foams, hoping the treble extends enough with those as I love extended clear treble. Bass too of course but I’m willing to let that slide a little as long as it’s punchy and tight with some sub bass.

Any other earbuds you have to compare too as a reference?
 
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Jun 12, 2018 at 2:13 PM Post #32,004 of 75,317
I plan on trying them with the super thin aliexpress foams, hoping the treble extends enough with those as I love extended coear treble. Bass too of course but I’m willing to let that slide a little as long as it’s punchy and tight with some sub bass.

Any other earbuds you have to compare too as a reference?

You have Willsound PK32 too?
Please compare Nicehck DIY PK2 and Shozy BK as a reference.
 
Jun 12, 2018 at 2:18 PM Post #32,005 of 75,317
You have Willsound PK32 too?
Please compare Nicehck DIY PK2 and Shozy BK as a reference.
Soon :)

They are in transit. Also I have to wait for the Fiio L26 adapter thingy I ordered to use my BK (2.5mm) in my LG V20.

So yeah once they both arrive I’ll compare them. I pretty interested in the BK and PK32 face off, I feel like if the PK32 can stand up to the BK it’s amazing value for money.
 
Jun 12, 2018 at 3:54 PM Post #32,006 of 75,317
Ideally a new pair of phones should be given atleast four to five days of listening so that they open up to reveal their true nature and more importantly, your ears and brain get a chance to adjust to a new sound signature.

'nuff said right there!
 
Jun 12, 2018 at 8:37 PM Post #32,007 of 75,317
I made a random set of purchases of low budget ear buds recently and just want to share some impressions of them for those looking for a cheap ear bud. These are all pretty good, though they all have their limitations.

VE Monk Lite 40 Ohm
I had the 120 Ohm already. These ones sound very boring and muddy compared to the 120 Ohm. The 120 Ohm is much more detailed and refined. Sounds decent, but 120 Ohm is a better purchase.

VE Monk Lite 120 Ohm
A better deal than the 40 Ohm variant, but does need a little more driving power. Still fine for mobiles. Good neutral sound. Good detail. Very lightweight. Less mid-vocal focused than the Monk. May sound a little hollow due to small driver size but overall recommended!

**** PT15
Very good build quality and removable cable at a super budget price! It's very bass anemic. Bright! But not piercing or contains any sibilance. Lots of detail in the mids and treble for the price though! The bass port needs to be widened a bit to give a bit more fullness to the sound though could have bad side effects of uncontrolled midbass - may try modding it for fun.

update: Just eq'd this with some bumps in the low end and mid-bass and now these sound really good!

Yincrow X6
These are slightly warm earphone. The bass is quite good for the budget. Detail is lacking a little bit compared to others here, but overall good sound. Treble rolls off a bit. Sounds best with donuts. Really like the cable and connector on this. Won't need to mod it!. The bass is quite good for the budget. Detail is lacking but overall good sound. Treble rolls off a bit. Sounds best with donuts. Really like the cable and connector on this. Won't need to mod it!

Sennheiser MX365
Classic earbuds from a big brand. Initally very comfortable, but can be uncomfortable over time. Not sure why. Lacking a little bit of bass (compared to the X6) and slightly hollow sounding. Not as anemic as the PT15 though. Very mid-focused. Rolls off on treble and bass. Also, removed the cable and put in my own braided copper.



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Jun 12, 2018 at 10:19 PM Post #32,008 of 75,317
I made a random set of purchases of low budget ear buds recently and just want to share some impressions of them for those looking for a cheap ear bud. These are all pretty good, though they all have their limitations.

VE Monk Lite 40 Ohm
I had the 120 Ohm already. These ones sound very boring and muddy compared to the 120 Ohm. The 120 Ohm is much more detailed and refined. Sounds decent, but 120 Ohm is a better purchase.

VE Monk Lite 120 Ohm
A better deal than the 40 Ohm variant, but does need a little more driving power. Still fine for mobiles. Good neutral sound. Good detail. Very lightweight. Less mid-vocal focused than the Monk. May sound a little hollow due to small driver size but overall recommended!

**** PT15
Very good build quality and removable cable at a super budget price! It's very bass anemic. Bright! But not piercing or contains any sibilance. Lots of detail in the mids and treble for the price though! The bass port needs to be widened a bit to give a bit more fullness to the sound though could have bad side effects of uncontrolled midbass - may try modding it for fun.

update: Just eq'd this with some bumps in the low end and mid-bass and now these sound really good!

Yincrow X6
These are slightly warm earphone. The bass is quite good for the budget. Detail is lacking a little bit compared to others here, but overall good sound. Treble rolls off a bit. Sounds best with donuts. Really like the cable and connector on this. Won't need to mod it!. The bass is quite good for the budget. Detail is lacking but overall good sound. Treble rolls off a bit. Sounds best with donuts. Really like the cable and connector on this. Won't need to mod it!

Sennheiser MX365
Classic earbuds from a big brand. Initally very comfortable, but can be uncomfortable over time. Not sure why. Lacking a little bit of bass (compared to the X6) and slightly hollow sounding. Not as anemic as the PT15 though. Very mid-focused. Rolls off on treble and bass. Also, removed the cable and put in my own braided copper.

Nice impressions. I concur with your monk 120 and pt15 impressions (and I agree that the pt15 sound quite good with a bass bump).
 
Jun 12, 2018 at 10:46 PM Post #32,009 of 75,317
Ideally a new pair of phones should be given atleast four to five days of listening so that they open up to reveal their true nature and more importantly, your ears and brain get a chance to adjust to a new sound signature.

yes, especially swapping from very different signature sounding headphones. i remember on a meeting, my friend listened to the Liebesleid and he said he didn't like it. i said to him "give a minute to adjust“. after adjusting period, he just sat there changing tracks, and then switch back to his earbuds and said" wow.. Now this all other sounded %@#".

On another instance, a fellow tried an etymotic after using a bass heavy iems, and said the ety sounded like @%# :laughing:

I plan on trying them with the super thin aliexpress foams, hoping the treble extends enough with those as I love extended clear treble. Bass too of course but I’m willing to let that slide a little as long as it’s punchy and tight with some sub bass.

Any other earbuds you have to compare too as a reference?

To my ears the PK32 sounded thin in bass and the staging too dispersed with thin foams, and i only like it with full foams (using hiegis on it) as the treble doesn't seem to be compromised with using thick foams. But i'm interested to hear your assessment on that. Can't wait for you to have the PK32 and do shootout with the BK (and other yuin shell in your collection)
 
Jun 12, 2018 at 11:42 PM Post #32,010 of 75,317
Hi all,

Just wanted to share with all of those pt15 owners with the screaming mid - highs... I managed to crack open my pair without destroying them. I did a bit of tinkering and tuning... and WOW! You get all the goodness of pt15 clarity and detail with mids and highs balanced out with bass and sub bass! Before tuning I would hear sub bass peak out here and there on some tracks but mostly it was buried my the mid and upper frequencies. Now that those are tamed I can hear the big picture. I would say they are not a frequency range specialist like some buds that really focus on mids and highs (like my diy pk1 - very dark and bass anemic), but rather cover the whole spectrum nicely. They sound awesome with everything so far... All-arounders. They kick in the bass and sub bass like my seahf awk 64 and are noticeably cleaner/clearer than my he150 (I actually have the HE 150 PRO incoming... Hope they are not redundant to these).

Anyway, the only thing I noticed with some tracks is that with some instruments (sax or trumpet) they can sounds a bit 'crunchy'. I'm thinking it may actually be the recording as overall the highs do sound smooth... Will give them some more time then go from there...

I was about to shelve these buds... Glad I didn't...!!! :)
 
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