Earbuds Round-Up
Nov 7, 2023 at 3:55 PM Post #72,316 of 74,220
Had to find a solution for more power meanwhile, yup this rocks 🤘

But yeah it's hard to beat Zen SU for metal, before I would always go for my headphone ZMF Verite or my iem Neon Pro for metal. But I can see myself grab earbuds more for this.

Track Will of Whispers or perhaps the last one The Enduring Spirit Of Calamity is favorites.

Now to try the same album once more with Caelum 😁

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Doing that right now, and it does indeed sound good... :)
Gotta love it when they keep posting pictures and impressions of things us normal peon folk have no chance of hearing lol
Many apologies for that. It was not my intention of "rubbing it in" per se'.

If it were up to me, All of my family here on this thread would have some by him, but after all he is but one person, and doesn't have the funds to complete sets for everyone (which I am sure he would if he could).
 
Nov 7, 2023 at 4:25 PM Post #72,317 of 74,220
When you can check out this album on Zen Su

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Tomb Mold - The Enduring Spirit
Saved to my playlist on Amazon. I really love the music, though if I'm being honest, I don't necessarily love the growling lyrics... I would rather hear them actually sing it, or a the very least "screamo" type of sound or a mixture of the two (kind of like Killswitch Engage might do). Either way, thanks for the rec, I am always looking for new (good) stuff among all the crap that has no substance to it. :)

Such as (though certainly not new):

Where they took an already perfect song (in 2023 voted as the 9th best metal song of all time) and made it better than perfect. :) Which, sounds AMAZING on the Caelum or Yinman BTW!
 
Nov 7, 2023 at 4:55 PM Post #72,318 of 74,220
This album by Leprous sound good on most warm earbuds, heard it many times before with Zen 3.0.
But now with Caelum and it's a total different experience, more natural and full bodied.

Same here not trying to rub it in, I just have high passion for FranQL craft and appreciation.

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Nov 7, 2023 at 4:58 PM Post #72,319 of 74,220
Or, this Norwegian has some SCARY talent, and love everything he has done... In case you aren't familiar, he has a crap-ton of covers (everything from Adele, to Phil Collins, and even stuff that was already metal...





Edit: Also, I wanted to note that the FiiO FF3 are excellent with metal also (and the Yincrow RW2000 as well) because of it's boosted bass, and relaxed treble. Sometimes the aggressive pina gain can be an issue though (for both sets).
 
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Nov 7, 2023 at 4:59 PM Post #72,320 of 74,220
MY TOP 5 EARBUDS

#1 Cypherus Audio Susvara Black Dragon

The mighty 🐉 fills a huge portion of my library, literally everything in my music library sounds incredible. The deepest most layered sub bass of any Bud I know of! I feel like I’ve gushed enough about this bud.


#2 TGXear Desolation Sound

The man, the myth..The Legend! Mr. Jim Park @tgx78 master of flathead wizardry and painter of mystic landscapes blessed us with his masterpiece and I couldn’t be happier. A wonderful all rounder that excels with classical, modern classical, ambient and modern electronic music. Highly resolving bud! Micro dynamics are 🤌🏼

#3 Venture Electronics APWS or Asura Pure White Shining

This is a specialist in my collection and has the best string timbre I’ve ever heard. Excels with solo and small ensemble classical and female vocals. Not a Bud for pop, rock, or anything with too much energy or a lot going on. This is a timbre/tonality king and meant for intimate listening of the highest pedigree.

#4 TGXear Tantalus

An oldie but a remarkable listen when powered properly. This is a recent discovery as I used to own this bud and I sold it due to hearing it muddy and bloated…Re purchased recently as I have a better DAP with better integrated power and Tantalus sounds like an Aroma Jewel in earbud form. Seductive timbre in male and female vocals. Resolving and sparkling treble. Great Modal Jazz bud!

#5 Venture Electronics Zen SU or Shining Ultimate

This is another new bud in my collection and while it sounds GRAND and oozing with warmth I’m still wrapping my head around it. @ian91 was correct in saying it rocks with music from Tool! This bud has some of the most correct sounding guitar tone (electric and acoustic alike) I’ve heard in any monitor, Bud or headphone! Female vocals are favored here and a calling card I’ve noticed with VE. I def hear a house sound in this flagship bud. I still need to run through my library but it’s already a favorite!

This list is subject to change and/or rearrange :)


Buds I most want to hear:
Yinman 2.0 600ohm
Shozy BK
Puresounds 100-500,600
Ksearphone Bell-Ti+, DBX
Simphonio Dragon 3+
FQL BlueMoon
Yuin PK1
Ucotech Es-P2

Nice top 5! Absolutely spoilt for choice there. The Black Dragon has been on my radar for some time now. I've been quite reluctant to go for it due to price/build quality. Shelling out circa $1k for Zen SU was a bit of a one-off for me and I think it would take a lot of praise to see me spend that much on an earbud again. I've recently upgraded my desktop stack and I'm finding a new love for DS, which previously sounded on the thinner side and not organic enough for my tastes. The note weight is now 'adequate' and no longer distracts from that textured appeal. As for Tantalus, I really need to get my hands on a set. I love the Alpha driver but admit that sometimes it can lack some bite and sparkle and wonder if the Tantalus can offer that but with a somewhat similar driver character?

Having said all this, I'm very content with my collection and there's plenty of variety:

APWS for the warm vocal specialist
Blue Moon for a brighter, balanced, technical all rounder (Blue Moon is very much APWS if you were to remove the VE DNA (i.e. the low mid/mid-mid emphasis) and turn the technicalities up a few notches)
Ibis as a dark/warm but detailed, technical all rounder for long sessions
Desolation Sound when I need more neutrality for classical
Zen SU for metal/rock/hip hop etc...when I want to listen loud, essentially.
Aquila + dongle for on-the-go listening

Buds I want to hear:
FQL Caelum
FQL Black Panther
Anything from TGXear - the sky is the limit here and I'm looking forward to novel drivers/configs
Yinman 2.0 600
Yincrow RW-3000
Zen 3.0
 
Nov 7, 2023 at 5:05 PM Post #72,321 of 74,220
Nice top 5! Absolutely spoilt for choice there. The Black Dragon has been on my radar for some time now. I've been quite reluctant to go for it due to price/build quality. Shelling out circa $1k for Zen SU was a bit of a one-off for me and I think it would take a lot of praise to see me spend that much on an earbud again. I've recently upgraded my desktop stack and I'm finding a new love for DS, which previously sounded on the thinner side and not organic enough for my tastes. The note weight is now 'adequate' and no longer distracts from that textured appeal. As for Tantalus, I really need to get my hands on a set. I love the Alpha driver but admit that sometimes it can lack some bite and sparkle and wonder if the Tantalus can offer that but with a somewhat similar driver character?

Having said all this, I'm very content with my collection and there's plenty of variety:

APWS for the warm vocal specialist
Blue Moon for a brighter, balanced, technical all rounder (Blue Moon is very much APWS if you were to remove the VE DNA (i.e. the low mid/mid-mid emphasis) and turn the technicalities up a few notches)
Ibis as a dark/warm but detailed, technical all rounder for long sessions
Desolation Sound when I need more neutrality for classical
Zen SU for metal/rock/hip hop etc...when I want to listen loud, essentially.
Aquila + dongle for on-the-go listening

Buds I want to hear:
FQL Caelum
FQL Black Panther
Anything from TGXear - the sky is the limit here and I'm looking forward to novel drivers/configs
Yinman 2.0 600
Yincrow RW-3000
Zen 3.0
Not only do you have a marvelous list yourself, but your "wants" list is made up of some of the best sound available as well.
 
Nov 7, 2023 at 5:16 PM Post #72,322 of 74,220
Not only do you have a marvelous list yourself, but your "wants" list is made up of some of the best sound available as well.

I'm in no hurry to hear them, either! Very much enjoying the journey right now. I really do look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Blue Moon whenever it falls into your lap - it's a real stunner. A timbre-tone-tech sweet spot.
 
Nov 7, 2023 at 5:16 PM Post #72,323 of 74,220
For those on a much lower budget, and want to hear some really good metal, don't fret. There is some REALLY good sets here too.

If you want clarity in your metal (without killing your ears), the Lun Sheng A-Bells are outstanding for this. The presence region isn't boosted to a shouty level, but has lots and lots of sparkle. The downside is that you won't "feel" the bass and kick drums. It is present and is a very addictive sound.

Another set that surprises me is the FiiO FF1. These actually might have too much bass, but they are not shouty. There is nothing offensive in the tuning on these. They only lack a bit in separation, and layering, but I would not say it detracts from listening to this genre IMO. The FF1 come with a dongle (though it is not very good, but useable if you have nothing else).

Both have a removable cable (very nice feature at this level; though with the A-Bell you will either have to supply your own cable or buy it with the BT wireless adaptor), and both can be had for less than $20 (IIRC).
 
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Nov 7, 2023 at 5:19 PM Post #72,324 of 74,220
I'm in no hurry to hear them, either! Very much enjoying the journey right now. I really do look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Blue Moon whenever it falls into your lap - it's a real stunner. A timbre-tone-tech sweet spot.
For sure! The journey is half (or more) of the fun. :)

I am holding off on commissioning them until he has made all the ones he was planning on making, so that he can take his time and not feel pressured on making them. So, it may be a while, or it may be very soon. But, I am also VERY excited about them as well.

Edit: The new Black Panther look amazing as well. :)
 
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Nov 7, 2023 at 5:43 PM Post #72,326 of 74,220
For those on a much lower budget, and want to hear some really good metal, don't fret. There is some REALLY good sets here too.

If you want clarity in your metal (without killing your ears), the Lun Sheng A-Bells are outstanding for this. The presence region isn't boosted to a shouty level, but has lots and lots of sparkle. The downside is that you won't "feel" the bass and kick drums. It is present and is a very addictive sound.

Another set that surprises me is the FiiO FF1. These actually might have too much bass, but they are not shouty. There is nothing offensive in the tuning on these. They only lack a bit in separation, and layering, but I would not say it detracts from listening to this genre IMO. The FF1 come with a dongle (though it is not very good, but useable if you have nothing else).
Most of my friends opted for DIYs and DIYers earbuds as alternative to midfi up to TOTL buds we just borrow/trade with each other so we can try out different buds
 
Nov 7, 2023 at 5:49 PM Post #72,327 of 74,220
For sure! The journey is half (or more) of the fun. :)

I am holding off on commissioning them until he has made all the ones he was planning on making, so that he can take his time and not feel pressured on making them. So, it may be a while, or it may be very soon. But, I am also VERY excited about them as well.

Edit: The new Black Panther look amazing as well. :)
I think it's very nice of @FranQL to give back to this community me and my friends have learned alot from this Thread and all the wonderful people in here I wish I can give back or be helpful around here too:L3000:
 
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Nov 7, 2023 at 5:49 PM Post #72,328 of 74,220
Buds I most want to hear:
Yinman 2.0 600ohm
Shozy BK
Puresounds 100-500,600
Ksearphone Bell-Ti+, DBX
Simphonio Dragon 3+
FQL BlueMoon
Yuin PK1
Ucotech Es-P2
I thought the Yincrow RW-3000 was on your wish list as well(?). Well, I guess I could be wrong about that.

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Yinman 2.0 600Ω, love their sound when driven well.
Shozy BK, own them and they are definitely keepers.
Puresounds 600 (original not type S), another high ohm set with excellent sound if driven well.
 
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Nov 7, 2023 at 6:00 PM Post #72,329 of 74,220
Nov 7, 2023 at 6:25 PM Post #72,330 of 74,220
Are you able to give impressions comparing these to the Yincrow RW-3000?
The comparison is that the M5 Pro Golden and RW-3000 are like night and day.

M5 Pro Golden (M5PG) has a smaller soundstage (in your head) and less instrument / vocals separation than the RW-3000. M5PG sounds a bit fast, where the RW-3000 can be laid back and intimate. Maybe it's because the RW-3000's bass is more present than the M5PG, which enriches the sound from the RW-3000. Since you already have the RW-3000, I think you know what I'm talking about. The main reason I got the M5PG was because I wanted to make use of the Smabat drivers I bought with the M4 (Smabat's dismal attempt). So far the M4-ST10S and M4-Super One drivers sound great on the M5Pro body. I have other drivers that were released with the M4 that I haven't tried yet, so I hope they will sound good as well.

I'm not saying the M5PG is a bad set of buds, they are just different. If I had to pick one over the other, I would definitely choose the RW-3000.
 

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