[furyossa]

Yeah, modular cables are nice. But still a big deal breaker that it doesnt have a replaceable cable....

@RikudouGoku
The higher price tag of the Bell-Ti PLUS is starting to make a little more sense after seeing those last two photos. The adjustable TRRS Balanced plug is a great idea.

Not only that, modular cables are no longer a rarity.
The cables are somewhere around $100 (I don't count DUNU HULK cable since it's massive and not for earbuds)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32961475211.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002400172813.html

Also, there are a lot of variants of plugs
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32993028884.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000722653777.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32921422302.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32919553180.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000858622753.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002172122667.html

 

[RikudouGoku]

Not only that, modular cable modular cables are no longer a rarity.
The cables are somewhere around $100 (I don't count DUNU HULK cable since it's massive and not for earbuds)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32961475211.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002400172813.html

Also, there are a lot of variants of plugs471.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32993028884.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000722653777.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32921422302.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32919553180.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000858622753.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002172122667.html

Yeah, so its not that big of a deal to have it on a bud that will be over 770 usd....

 

[furyossa]

Yup. $200-$300 worth cable on earbuds Is it worth it at all?
Now ask yourself what you will do when the mini XLR connection is damaged during the plug replacement because that is the only critical point.
You need to cut the cable and bye all parts because they use unique plugs

 

[RikudouGoku]

 

[furyossa]

A Thing of Beauty
I see they use this adapter in package https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32890750282.html

 

[WoodyLuvr]

I messaged ArtVano asking for a complete breakdown including specs for all their PISLO earbud models since 2018... let's see if and how long that will take to receive a detailed response back. Unfortunately, ArtVano's IEMs and earbuds headphone divisions (OTATO and PISLO respectively) are notoriously unresponsive and rarely communicate whereas their hardware division (Clot Audio) is quite excellent in marketing; answering questions; and engaging the audiophile community.

 

[FranQL]

No solo eso, los cables modulares de cable modular ya no son una rareza.
Los cables cuestan alrededor de $ 100 (no cuento el cable DUNU HULK ya que es masivo y no para auriculares)

moondrop has modular cable for € 50, that is, there are already many manufacturers that offer them.

 

[RikudouGoku]

 

[furyossa]

They are the only model I have known for a long time, but I don't know how they sound. I like their original design and I think they achieve a good fit with this shape.
I only tried their ear tips, they affect the sound a lot, but not always in a positive way
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001950563898.html

 

[furyossa]

moondrop has modular cable for € 50, that is, there are already many manufacturers that offer them.

Great example. The quality of this cable is quite sufficient for any model of earbuds. The simpler, the better
No need for "plus", "pro", "women poison" and other suffixes

 

[WoodyLuvr]

Great example. The quality of this cable is quite sufficient for any model of earbuds. The simpler, the better
No need for "plus", "pro", "women poison" and other suffixes

One culprit of grandiose verbiage (besides over-zealous sales marketing strategies) is simply language conflict.

Being one of the last true remnants of the ancient Chinese culture that emphasizes artistic conception (神), Chinese languages are expressive and unfortunately sometimes translate rather awkwardly into English due to their heavy use of free/separate morphemes. Simply put, Chinese expressions can/may come across as being corny and flowery, especially in regards to adjectives, as well as attributive and descriptive nouns. Also, it is important to note that many Chinese characters do hold deeper, more complex meanings (and even stories) that are far too difficult and untimely to translate fully.

 

[rprodrigues]

Yeah, so its not that big of a deal to have it on a bud that will be over 770 usd....

Well... isn't a full headphone a better choice at this price level?

I just can't see myself spending such an amount in a set of earbud/iems. I know it may be just me, but I'd rather grab a Focal Elex at $700.

It seems the prices are going crazy this season.

 

[RikudouGoku]

Well... isn't a full headphone a better choice at this price level?

I just can't see myself spending such an amount in a set of earbud/iems. I know it may be just me, but I'd rather grab a Focal Elex at $700.

It seems the prices are going crazy this season.

I guess I agree, but I take iems over headphones. None of the headphones I have heard impress nor give me as much enjoyment as iems and even buds do....


IMO:

iems > earbuds > headphones

 

[furyossa]

One culprit of this seemingly overuse of model descriptions (besides over-zealous sales marketing strategies) is simply language conflict.

Being one of the last true remnants of the ancient Chinese culture that emphasizes artistic conception (神), Chinese is an expressive language(s) which unfortunately sometimes translates rather awkwardly into English due to the heavy use of free/separate morphemes. Simply put, it can/may across as being corny and flowery, especially in regards to adjectives, as well as attributive and descriptive nouns. Also, it is important to note that many Chinese characters do hold deeper, more complex meanings (and even stories) that are far too difficult and untimely to translate fully.

I am familiar with this very well and I know that Chinese symbols have complex meanings. Also Google translate other languages very wrong.
What I mean in the previous post is that, these days the suffixes "Pro" and "Plus" are more often used, and with them comes a drastic jump in price.

 

[Сomrade]

None of the headphones I've heard are impressive

Have you tried the Sennheiser HD25? I am completely satisfied.
Smooth sound with a slight bias in the bass.