[40760]

Hahaha yes. I still need to spend time with the newcomers: Zen LL, Yinman 600, Yincrow 2000 and Zen Black...I tend to focus on one can/earbud at a time.
Do you use the Bell-ti with foam ?

With my LBBS I use the porous VE foams.

 

[Serge Bernamej]

With my LBBS I use the porous VE foams.

Ohhhhh I see !!! I noticed indeed that the VE foams are softer. Didn’t think it makes a difference. I think i just use any foams.
What is LBBS?

 

[40760]

Ohhhhh I see !!! I noticed indeed that the VE foams are softer. Didn’t think it makes a difference. I think i just use any foams.
What is LBBS?

K’s Little Black Bell S (LBB-S). The entry models of the K’s bell series. Bell-Ti is the flagship.

VE has actually quite a few types of foams. But I find the thin and porous VE foams to affect the sound the less.

 

[digititus]

Thus far I have been extremely impressed with my Bell-Ti 120Ω... I am now seeing why many rank them number one. Comfort is out of this world.

I'm doing my best not to be tempted by these. You are not helping

 

[digititus]

The Smabat ST10s gold has been on active duty for the last 2 weeks. These are quite impressive. The bass is awesome for buds, without sacrificing detail or atmosphere. For electronic music these are the buds which will put a smile on your face without you wishing for the extra sub bass provided by IEMS. Recommended if you can get them on sale (I paid $80).

 

[Serge Bernamej]

I'm doing my best not to be tempted by these. You are not helping

I got tempted and gave in. No regrets.

 

[baskingshark]

Well, it sure took a long time for fedex to deliver this.

Build quality on the chaconne itself is as expected, pretty good. Although it does have a sharp edge at the top vent:


One thing I have to mention is that the included accessories are pretty crappy for a bud at this price....
You only get 1 carry case, 1 shirt clip and 10 pairs of low-density full foams (which are very fragile and makes my ears itch as well, I already broke a pair, which has never happened before except on some buds in a 5 usd bud....), I have seen buds at 1/3 of the Chaconne´s price that include better accessories....

How does it sound though, most important question!

Ya the accessories look crappish, but I'm also worried about the non detachable cable at this price. It is one awkward yank away from being a white elephant.

The Smabat ST10s gold has been on active duty for the last 2 weeks. These are quite impressive. The bass is awesome for buds, without sacrificing detail or atmosphere. For electronic music these are the buds which will put a smile on your face without you wishing for the extra sub bass provided by IEMS. Recommended if you can get them on sale (I paid $80).

Yes I bought my SMABAT ST10S Black Gold for around $60 USD (2nd hand shop), and it has been one of my daily driver earbuds. Haven't met a earbud that has such good subbass extension/quantity. There's a slight 3 Khz peak when no foams are used, but by and large, very happy with it (needs amping though).

I wonder for the earbud experts here, is there any other earbud with better subbass quantity/extension than the Black Gold?

 

[RikudouGoku]

How does it sound though, most important question!

Ya the accessories look crappish, but I'm also worried about the non detachable cable at this price. It is one awkward yank away from being a white elephant.

I get to that tomorrow. Will try out full foams vs donut foams before I decide which one to use as well. I found out that the stock foams are pretty bad in durability and comfort.

 

[waynes world]

I wonder for the earbud experts here, is there any other earbud with better subbass quantity/extension than the Black Gold?

I'm no expert. But I just took a break from the Black Golds and X6's and threw in the Kube V1's that I haven't listened to in quite a while. I don't want to compare the Kube's to the Smabats, but wow, what a different yet pleasureable sound. Plenty of bass, and a surreal surround-sound kinda thing going on with these Kube's. I feel silly for ignoring them for so long lol!

 

[assassin10000]

I just bought the 14.8mm a week ago cause the 16mm wasn't in stock. Oh well, at least the 14.8mm sounds amazing.

Sounds like you need silicone rings like these under your foams:

 

[arar]

It's kinda nuts to me how many of these higher priced buds seem to come with a non-detachable cable.

 

[40760]

It's kinda nuts to me how many of these higher priced buds seem to come with a non-detachable cable.

Majority of earbud brands claim they did this because they felt the cable was part of the tuning.

 

[arar]

Majority of earbud brands claim they did this because they felt the cable was part of the tuning.

Well, that's an... Explanation. One I can't really swallow, but I suppose it doesn't matter - I've got my eyes set on the RW-2000 (an a longer custom cable) already. Was hoping to be able to order them in May, but I splurged on a new portable amp and some extras yesterday, so that's my audio budget for the month spent. Maybe in June.

 

[furyossa]

Majority of earbud brands claim they did this because they felt the cable was part of the tuning.

A very funny and frivolous excuse. Does anyone really think that's the real reason.

 

[40760]

A very funny and frivolous excuse. Does anyone really think that's the real reason.

I don't think they care what we think though...