[cappuchino]

They are also on Ali:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_BSlKad

Oh Ali, you always increase the prices

 

[furyossa]

Sure! Here it is https://shopee.ph/product/283086553/7977281648?smtt=0.174314985-1611660233.9
Though as far as I'm aware Shopee's only for SEA.
I also noticed the things you pointed out. Their other buds were criticized to lack bass and I guess this should solve it? Okay, that doesn't even make sense . It should still be bass-anemic. But how does the driver breathe?

The bass will be reduced without any vent. But that's not the only problem. I never saw a Ti driver with shrinked (50Hz) low end. Maybe is typo.
For the shell they use copper which is good material for non-resonant shells but 25gr weight with that "edge" will probably cause discomfort after a short time

 

[baskingshark]

The bass will be reduced without any vent. But that's not the only problem. I never saw a Ti driver with shrinked (50Hz) low end. Maybe is typo.

LOL maybe they are telling the truth about subbass roll off in most earbud designs.

I always chuckle when I see some CHIFI manufacturers try to claim a 10 Hz - 40000 Hz FR. Perhaps those IEMs and buds would be very suited for our bat and dolphin friends, to appreciate those extreme frequencies.

 

[furyossa]

LOL maybe they are telling the truth about subbass roll off in most earbud designs.

I always chuckle when I see some CHIFI manufacturers try to claim a 10 Hz - 40000 Hz FR. Perhaps those IEMs and buds would be very suited for our bat and dolphin friends, to appreciate those extreme frequencies.

No, no that is for small fish and sharks For dolphins these two are perfect Sony IER-Z1R and Technics EAH-TZ700 (the brothers in F.R: 3Hz-100kHz)

 

[Sam L]

Got these during the 11/11 sale but never got around to listening and measuring them.

Toneking TP16 32 ohm compensation files here.

Here's what's being corrected:

 

[furyossa]

The bass will be reduced without any vent. But that's not the only problem. I never saw a Ti driver with shrinked (50Hz) low end. Maybe is typo.
For the shell they use copper which is good material for non-resonant shells but 25gr weight with that "edge" will probably cause discomfort after a short time

All in all, EP08 pros and cons
pors:
- price
- build quality
- "exotic" driver (15.4mm Ti) N52
- detachable cable with matching mmcx housing
cons:
- design of the shell:
---- not so great ergonomics
---- no vents = bye bye bass
---- this type of shell can block rear wave and cause congested sound. That depends on the construction of the drivers (for standard MX500 typs is not good)
- weight (material like copper and brass have good characteristics but they are too heavy)
- cut - off low end
- sensitivity is too high for 32ohm

 

[cappuchino]

All in all, EP08 pros and cons
pors:
- price
- build quality
- "exotic" driver (15.4mm Ti) N52
- detachable cable with matching mmcx housing
cons:
- design of the shell:
---- not so great ergonomics
---- no vents = bye bye bass
---- this type of shell can block rear wave and cause congested sound. That depends on the construction of the drivers (for standard MX500 typs is not good)
- weight (material like copper and brass have good characteristics but is too heavy)
- cut - off low end
- sensitivity is too great for 32ohm

Holy crap! Now that you mentioned the sensitivity, it's freakinG HIGH! But I do wonder if it was just bad translation or typographical errors. I remember seeing the EP05 listed at 320 ohms.

 

[furyossa]

Holy crap! Now that you mentioned the sensitivity, it's freakinG HIGH! But I do wonder if it was just bad translation or typographical errors. I remember seeing the EP05 listed at 320 ohms.

Your link and link on Ali have the same spec. So I don't think that is typo. IMHO 125dB is too much even for 600ohm driver (15.4mm)

 

[Toom]

The Fiio EM5s continue to impress me. I wonder if the reason they are not mentioned more here is due to their price? Yet they are actually really cheap when compared to most of the IEMs discussed here at Head-fi, so I am more than happy to pay this.

Seems a bit of a disjunct between this earphone niche, with its "Hey I got 12 new Chi-fi earbuds for $0.50 all in." and the IEM crew with their "Hey I got this 12 driver Lithuanian IEM carved out of pure unobtanium and it was so affordable at $5k."

 

[40760]

The Fiio EM5s continue to impress me. I wonder if the reason they are not mentioned more here is due to their price? Yet they are actually really cheap when compared to most of the IEMs discussed here at Head-fi, so I am more than happy to pay this.

Seems a bit of a disjunct between this earphone niche, with its "Hey I got 12 new Chi-fi earbuds for $0.50 all in." and the IEM crew with their "Hey I got this 12 driver Lithuanian IEM carved out of pure unobtanium and it was so affordable at $5k."

Do the EM5 have good low ends? I'm seriously considering ordering a pair of these the weather is getting a bit too warm for headphones around these parts...

 

[FranQL]

The Fiio EM5s continue to impress me. I wonder if the reason they are not mentioned more here is due to their price? Yet they are actually really cheap when compared to most of the IEMs discussed here at Head-fi, so I am more than happy to pay this.

Seems a bit of a disjunct between this earphone niche, with its "Hey I got 12 new Chi-fi earbuds for $0.50 all in." and the IEM crew with their "Hey I got this 12 driver Lithuanian IEM carved out of pure unobtanium and it was so affordable at $5k."

I don't have EM5 fiio, but iem or bud, € 250 is at least a very important effort for me / my economy. On the other hand, regardless of the budget, at least I do not see the sense of accumulating iems or in this case buds, I pursue more the objective of using them to listen to music.

 

[Toom]

Do the EM5 have good low ends? I'm seriously considering ordering a pair of these the weather is getting a bit too warm for headphones around these parts...

Yes, very impressive, given the limitations of buds vs headphones or iems. Use outside might be a no-go though, unless worn under a hat, given their open nature.

 

[jant71]

The Fiio EM5s continue to impress me. I wonder if the reason they are not mentioned more here is due to their price? Yet they are actually really cheap when compared to most of the IEMs discussed here at Head-fi, so I am more than happy to pay this.

Seems a bit of a disjunct between this earphone niche, with its "Hey I got 12 new Chi-fi earbuds for $0.50 all in." and the IEM crew with their "Hey I got this 12 driver Lithuanian IEM carved out of pure unobtanium and it was so affordable at $5k."

Hard not to notice people want the isolation and heck even noise cancelling so open buds are not the popular kid. EM5 are not popular due to both price combined with a fixed cable which is something that is a deal breaker for many.

I think you are wrong and most of the IEMs talked about are in that range since the majority of people don't have a lot of money esp. right now. The Fiio brother FD5 is talked about, LZ A7, IE 300, MT300, DM8, Tea, H40, etc. Think there is still more talk of budget than the expensive ones as well. More talk about Blon's than A8000 and Luna. Of course reviews for that stuff maybe be more elaborate and the companies posting more about that expensive stuff as well but real talk is mostly that $300 price and below.

 

[mtl171]

Seems a bit of a disjunct between this earphone niche, with its "Hey I got 12 new Chi-fi earbuds for $0.50 all in." and the IEM crew with their "Hey I got this 12 driver Lithuanian IEM carved out of pure unobtanium and it was so affordable at $5k."

Most definitely. The price bracket differences is huge! Someone posted earlier that $50-100 gets you midfi buds, while $100-300 is hifi buds. And we all know that $300 barely scratches midfi as far as IEMs go... I kind of hope we get more EM5 competitors to drive competition. Even if it doesn't get the price down, itll be nice to at least have comparisons as to how things sound.

I think you are wrong and most of the IEMs talked about are in that range since the majority of people don't have a lot of money esp. right now. The Fiio brother FD5 is talked about, LZ A7, IE 300, MT300, DM8, Tea, H40, etc. Think there is still more talk of budget than the expensive ones as well. More talk about Blon's than A8000 and Luna. Of course reviews for that stuff maybe be more elaborate and the companies posting more about that expensive stuff as well but real talk is mostly that $300 price and below.

I definitely agree. Though that otherhand that Z1R thread is getting lengthy I do think its easy to get swept up in expensive stuff especially as you see pricey stuff discussion float to the top of more recent threads. <$300 chifi iems have gotten really good in the last 2 years or so. Like I still remember when <$100 got you either ridiculously V shaped or muddy sounding IEMs, with $300 being acceptable/good. And now <$100 is a huge value proposition and easily good or even great sounding (minus technicalities), while <$300 gets you 90% the tone of a TOTL and 80-90% of the technicalities.

 

[furyossa]

I don't know why you keep trying to compare "sharks" and "dolphins" over and over again.
They both swim in the ocean, but they're totally different species.

vs