[musicday]

Found some Zen V1 quite expensive,but with oxidation on the cable.
Should that worry me? And because of the high price I didn't make the jump.

 

[vapman]

Found some Zen V1 quite expensive,but with oxidation on the cable.
Should that worry me? And because of the high price I didn't make the jump.

Nah, no problem with oxidation on the cable. Just like the Cygnus, green is good 

 
 

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Seems there are different opinions regarding how different TY Hi-Z 32 sound from one another. I have a V2 L-plug I don't think sounds so bad, but I keep hearing V1 straight plugs are on a different level from these. is that true for anyone else? I was enjoying my TY 32 enough I was thinking I'd recable it.

 

[flamesofarctica]

The TY HP400S and K's 300 arrived yesterday.

I do think some of the middle TY's get overlooked a bit, as I'd been really impressed with the HP320 and now I'm also really liking what I hear from the slightly bassier HP400S.

The K's 300 - it's quite a forward sound but aside from what I find an unattractive cable, provided it's amped it seems pretty good for the price. It seems to need more power than the 400S, which surprised me (am basing that purely on volume level when I change between the two, that might be totally the wrong way of judging, if so please let me know :-D Still learning!!). At first I was concerned it seemed a tiny bit harsh on some of the mids/highs but this seemed to settle or I got used to it. Certainly no harshness close to the levels of the TY HP32S or Yinman 64.

Anyway, will continue to try them out as early days yet. As an aside, either I was feeling particularly impatient last night, or both are strong contenders in my 'worlds tangliest earbuds' list.

 

[1TrickPony]

could someone provide me a comparison between shozy bk vs Zen 2.0, and also Masya vs Zen 2.0?

 

[Saoshyant]

could someone provide me a comparison between shozy bk vs Zen 2.0, and also Masya vs Zen 2.0?

 
Still in the learning phase with the Zen 2, so many earbuds came in I don't want to give you any misinformation yet.  That will come later.

 

[1TrickPony]

Still in the learning phase with the Zen 2, so many earbuds came in I don't want to give you any misinformation yet.  That will come later.

I'm looking for vocals. female. jazz mostly. I think I've had you and someone else speak well of the masya, and wondered if it's worth the investment even if I already bought a used Zen 2.0

 

[Saoshyant]

I'm looking for vocals. female. jazz mostly. I think I've had you and someone else speak well of the masya, and wondered if it's worth the investment even if I already bought a used Zen 2.0

Ok, I'll probably get back to you in a couple hours. I have a test track that does well for female vocals. That's assuming I don't forget before I head to bed.

 

[Saoshyant]

@1TrickPony I'm just not seeing a need to own both unless you just really want to collect or are willing to spend in order to find what suits you best.  I prefer the vocals of the Masya, but not by any significant amount.  The Zen 2 is great at so many things, at least so far in my limited experience with it.  It's not the best earbud I own, but it's very impressive.  The Rose approach at times can feel a little clinical, where the Zen feels more immersive.  There's also differences in ease of driving, which the Masya is certainly less taxing in order to reach an appropriate volume.
 
Just keep in mind I haven't had much time with the Zen 2 yet, so these are initial impressions so far, as I've been a bit preoccupied with the CampFred.  I need to give my wallet a break, damn earbuds.

 

[1TrickPony]

fair enough. my buddy who sold sold me his Zen didn't get a good seal. I suspect you need a good source that can juice this mofo. I'm just looking for a sweet vocal specialist earbud bud at this point and I'm not sure to pull the trigger on CAX and co yet. I haven't really read much on the Shozys either.

 

[Danneq]

Vocals cannot be any better than with Cypherus QFred...










But it's not sweet on your wallet...
 

 

[Saoshyant]

Vocals cannot be any better than with Cypherus QFred...











But it's not sweet on your wallet...

 

Especially considering they already have Zen 2. I'd love to hear QFred, but I suspect CampFred is still overall the best of that trio for me.

 

[golov17]

My DIY K326 have better vocal for me

 

[Danneq]

Especially considering they already have Zen 2. I'd love to hear QFred, but I suspect CampFred is still overall the best of that trio for me.

I prefer allrounders myself, but of the more midcentric earbuds I've heard (Zen 2, Asura 2, Cygnus, probably a few more I cannot remember right now) QFred has got the best and sweetest mids.

But it doesn't work with all types of music like CampFred.

 

[ctaxxxx]

could someone provide me a comparison between shozy bk vs Zen 2.0, and also Masya vs Zen 2.0?

 
The Shozy BK (...just realized I've still been calling them Stardust) is a lot more neutral than the Zen. It's a neutral sound compared to a overly (imo) warm sound. Zen's have a lot more mid bass and rolled off treble. Great mids though. Shozy BK sounds thinner in comparison, but still a great earbud for its sound signature. This one comes down to personal preference.
 

  Vocals cannot be any better than with Cypherus QFred...

But it's not sweet on your wallet...

 
The QFred's are amazing for vocals, but I agree with the price. I actually find them overpriced, especially considering I had to pay twice the amount for shipping compared to other DIY sellers for the same shipping service. Despite the great sound quality, I found the build quality disappointing. The paint has been coming off of the earbuds (maybe from sweat?), leftover glue residue that stuck to the initial foams, and the plug has no seal at the other end unlike all my other earbuds.

 

[Danneq]

  The QFred's are amazing for vocals, but I agree with the price. I actually find them overpriced, especially considering I had to pay twice the amount for shipping compared to other DIY sellers for the same shipping service. Despite the great sound quality, I found the build quality disappointing. The paint has been coming off of the earbuds (maybe from sweat?), leftover glue residue that stuck to the initial foams, and the plug has no seal at the other end unlike all my other earbuds.

I had the same problem with the paint on my pair of QFred (none of the other problems, though). I solved that by buying a small can of Humbrol enamel silver metallic paint (#11) for hobby models and a small paint brush for models. It was fortunately a perfect match and now it's impossible to tell what is original paint and what is added by me.
You should be able to find that paint in any hobby shop or online. Or some other brand that is silver metallic...

By the way, about the seal at the plug, you mean it is open? I think that is for a purpose. Another Head fier who bought both CampFred and QFred noticed that the same plug is used but the QFred's plug isn't "closed". Herry replied him that it is on purpose because of the cable used for QFred.

When I reported my problem to Herry he replied that he probably will only go with pre-colored housings from now on. He can create the most amazing sound in his earbuds, but the psysical finish isn't always perfect (for example the text on my CAX black started to come off).