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Sep 26, 2020 at 8:19 AM Post #50,431 of 106,548
That KZ ASX faceplate looks really nice.

The recent CCA C10 Pro had a similar design. But as they say don't judge a book by its cover. I thought the CCA C10 Pro looked dope, but the sound wasn't very good. It was even more bright and hot than a typical KZ/CCA, with sibilance in spades and poor instrumental timbre.

I rather take an ugly duckling IEM that sounds excellent. I hope this ASX can sound as good as it looks, but it is also rather expensive for a KZ (> $100 USD).
 
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Sep 26, 2020 at 9:50 AM Post #50,432 of 106,548
The recent CCA C10 Pro had a similar design. But as they say don't judge a book by its cover. I thought the CCA C10 Pro looked dope, but the sound wasn't very good. It was even more bright and hot than a typical KZ/CCA, with sibilance in spades and poor instrumental timbre.

I rather take an ugly duckling IEM that sounds excellent. I hope this ASX can sound as good as it looks, but it is also rather expensive for a KZ (> $100 USD).
Pre-order price of ASX IS $100, with coupons it can go as low as $85.
So KZ seems to be smashing TRN :)
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:10 AM Post #50,433 of 106,548
So the TRN vs KZ driver nuclear race has restarted in earnest. Even TWS sets are not exempt from driver wars LOL. Though as usual, driver count ain't as important as tuning and implementation.

I like their ambitiousness in moving from the budget market to try to enter the midfi market. The KZ ASX is > $100 USD, so would be interesting to see KZ muscling into the big boy's territory (their last venture into the > $100 USD market wasn't too successful in the KZ AS16).

TRN V90 was quite well received, so I'm looking foward to this S version which is I think is essentially a "pro" version. I didn't really like their last 2 multi driver behemoths, the TRN BA8 and TRN VX, they were technically proficient, but had too hot upper mids/treble and were quite expensive at launch (so not as good price to performance ratio).

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So, tough to choose. Not sure which is better. ASX looks nice but it is not "Professional" like the ASF. ASX has a lot of drivers but they weren't serious and "professional" like with the ASF. :relieved:
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:13 AM Post #50,434 of 106,548
So, tough to choose. Not sure which is better. ASX looks nice but it is not "Professional" like the ASF. ASX has a lot of drivers but they weren't serious and "professional" like with the ASF. :relieved:

Haha better decide quickly. By the time you make a decision, KZ would have released a "pro" version of both of them.
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:14 AM Post #50,435 of 106,548
So, tough to choose. Not sure which is better. ASX looks nice but it is not "Professional" like the ASF. ASX has a lot of drivers but they weren't serious and "professional" like with the ASF. :relieved:
A bit weird that they didnt say the ASX is "proffesional" while the cheaper ASF is lol.
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:17 AM Post #50,436 of 106,548
Haha better decide quickly. By the time you make a decision, KZ would have released a "pro" version of both of them.
nah, they would have released a plus ultra edition by then and another plus ultra pro coming out soon. :joy:
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:24 AM Post #50,437 of 106,548
A bit weird that they didnt say the ASX is "proffesional" while the cheaper ASF is lol.
For ASX are there any doubts?
For ASF - they had to emphasize a bit :)
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:26 AM Post #50,438 of 106,548
For ASX are there any doubts?
For ASF - they had to emphasize a bit :)
Is the ASX the best "value" in terms of how many drivers you get at that price?

Or is there some other iem with more drivers than the nuclear race champ KZ lol. :joy:
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:30 AM Post #50,439 of 106,548
ASX is kinda KZ answer to TRN VX approaching Anole VX

TRN "we introduce.. VX!!"
KZ "we got similar driver config and faceplate!"
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:43 AM Post #50,440 of 106,548
KZ's answer to the VX is the ZAX.

The ASX is what others will be answering to. AFAIK you couldn't get more than 8 drivers under $150 until now, and here's KZ going with 10 drivers for <$90 (from the right place).

Something that worries me about the ASX is that it only has one bass BA whereas most pure BA sets with that many drivers use two. It may not be an issue but they're probably gonna go with a subdued bass, analytical sound.
 
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Sep 26, 2020 at 11:44 AM Post #50,441 of 106,548
KZ's answer to the VX is the ZAX.

The ASX is what other will be answering to. AFAIK you couldn't get more than 8 drivers under $150 until now, and here's KZ going with 10 drivers for <$90 (from the right place).

I was joking about their reach to Anole VX
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:47 AM Post #50,442 of 106,548
KZ's answer to the VX is the ZAX.

The ASX is what others will be answering to. AFAIK you couldn't get more than 8 drivers under $150 until now, and here's KZ going with 10 drivers for <$90 (from the right place).

Something that worries me about the ASX is that it only has one bass BA whereas most pure BA sets with that many drivers use two. It may not be an issue but they're probably gonna go with a subdued bass, analytical sound.
Actually their own ZAX has 8 drivers (1 dd + 7 ba) for 60 usd.
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:47 AM Post #50,443 of 106,548
Is the ASX the best "value" in terms of how many drivers you get at that price?

Or is there some other iem with more drivers than the nuclear race champ KZ lol. :joy:
I do not know.
The lowest price per BA driver is now A10 (your favorite Tripowin) and KB10.
I love them (they may work well only with 1/3-1/2 of usually not treble-hot classics, but where they work for me - they immensely enjoyable in their exaggeration of harmonics) - so I got few more recently, just in case.

In March with the confinement, I decided to spend $500 outside KZ/CCA, I got two ~$200 all-BAs (Knowles, Sonion) and few more BQEYZ, etc.
What I learned that for me AS16 and C16 (and several other KZ/CCS) are very competitive (and arguably win for the money) and I will now stay with KZ/CCA enjoying the ride :)
 
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Sep 26, 2020 at 11:47 AM Post #50,444 of 106,548
...and the KZ drivers are black now so they are better. :)

Mark it down. Today is make fun of KZ day!
 
Sep 26, 2020 at 11:50 AM Post #50,445 of 106,548

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