[RikudouGoku]

Don't think the earphones are vented...

...but the bass drivers are...

They don't mention that for the ASX.

Actually doesnt this look like a vent?

 

[jant71]

Looks like the back of the bore seen through the "lens" of the housing. Just a render anyway.

 

[RikudouGoku]

Looks like the back of the bore seen through the "lens" of the housing. Just a render anyway.

Guess we will find out sooner or later anyway. Both of them are in pre-sale status right now, they will ship them out on october 15.

 

[rggz]

yeah, they are both BA only iems. No idea of they are vented or not though.

But they showed this graph for the ASF:

Meh. I've never seen a promotional photoshopped graph from KZ match crin's graph or any IEC711 graph. So... meaningless to me.

 

[PhonoPhi]

Don't think the earphones are vented...

...but the bass drivers are...

They don't mention that for the ASX. Maybe there we have the difference. Sealed and bassier bottom end on the ASX while the "monitor" sound is from tighter, sharper bass from venting the bass drivers.

They do have a fairly similar to me description for ASX.

Then for under $100, 20-driver ASX with its cool design, does not need much arguments for me to get
10-driver ASF for $60 - will need a bit more, arguments/marketing.
I think I may likely end up getting ASF one day, but with the likely CCA20-drriver and possible BAX, I will try to manage the acquisition pace

P. S. Correction of a typo ASF/ASX

 

[PhonoPhi]

With this description for the ASX:


I take it that they mean it is going to be bass neutral?

Unless they have a miracle new driver.
Their two BA drivers did a very good job for bass in AS12, while in AS16, as they say, the bass is there when called for.

 

[MrDelicious]

yeah, they are both BA only iems. No idea of they are vented or not though.

But they showed this graph for the ASF:

What is that weird hump in the lower mids and treble is just gone after 5k. It's going to sound like listening to music through a pillow.

 

[RikudouGoku]

What is that weird hump in the lower mids and treble is just gone after 5k. It's going to sound like listening to music through a pillow.

Well as rggz said, their graphs dont match the graphs by crinacle.

Look at the AS16:

 

[MrDelicious]

Well as rggz said, their graphs dont match the graphs by crinacle.

Look at the AS16:

The smoothing is insane on the KZ graph and that weird lower mid hump is there again, but generally it's a representation. Not a good representation, but one anyways.

 

[jant71]

They do have a fairly similar to me description for ASX.

Well, not to me. I see one talking about about the diaphragm area compared to other BA units and no mention of venting or air flow while the other talks about venting and diaphragm movement and vibrating more freely than a closed armature. One about size and the other about movement.

Could very well have vented and non-vented "new" 22955s.

 

[RikudouGoku]

Speaking of BA iems, are you guys interested in the Shanling AE3? It has 3 BA´s from Sonion at 170 usd, seems to be the cheapest iem with BA´s from sonion if I am not wrong.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/sha...ew-ae-line-of-earphones.887513/#post-14447471

 

[PhonoPhi]

Duplicate post deleted, my apologies

 

[PhonoPhi]

Well, not to me. I see one talking about about the diaphragm area compared to other BA units and no mention of venting or air flow while the other talks about venting and diaphragm movement and vibrating more freely than a closed armature. One about size and the other about movement.

Could very well have vented and non-vented "new" 22955s.

It can be the case.
I would trust much more in KZ ability to make great budget IEMs rather than their marketing materials (e.g. ASF treble look castrated to me, but will their pinna gain still be hot for most (?))

 

[Slater]

yeah, they are both BA only iems. No idea of they are vented or not though.

But they showed this graph for the ASF:

 

[jant71]

But that is the ASX not the ASF . He was looking for the vents on the ASF here....