If you're going to go as far as to say insane at a price of about $80, you should have indicated from the start that your budget is about $10!
And no one may be going to make a fake B40 for about $10.
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And no one may be going to make a fake B40 for about $10.
captione
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Yeah, @Ronion and our boys here will definitely nail it, bit by bit
We really need to set some standard at least, hopefully the framework will be established in the near future.
As for measuring, IEC standards doesn't really do anything meaningful to earbuds right now.
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My honeymoon with LBBS is over. Some weeks ago, I felt something was missing but having no other good earbud as one of my Smabat Super Point drivers died, I was stuck with it.
Lin sent me another pair of Super Point drivers and having the two side by side, I can say that I like the Smabat a lot better than LBBS. LBBS sounds thin and less resolving than the Smabat. I hear instruments better with the Smabat especially in busy tracks.
I can't go much deeper into the comparisons as I'm no audio expert. Both are powered by Shanling UA2.
Edit: Received a notification that ST20 preorder has been shipped. Hopefully it sounds better than Super Point.
Lin sent me another pair of Super Point drivers and having the two side by side, I can say that I like the Smabat a lot better than LBBS. LBBS sounds thin and less resolving than the Smabat. I hear instruments better with the Smabat especially in busy tracks.
I can't go much deeper into the comparisons as I'm no audio expert. Both are powered by Shanling UA2.
Edit: Received a notification that ST20 preorder has been shipped. Hopefully it sounds better than Super Point.
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Earlier this morning I received shipping notice email from smabat for the "crowd-funded" ST20 ordered back in November.
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Yes got my shipping notice also for ST20, looking forward to it.
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You and me both. Still, the LBBs is a nice buds with no glaring issues.
I just got mine too @Scuba Devils ! Can’t wait to hear it. Hopefully it lives up to its potential.
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Sam L
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I'm sorry to say that I really don't think there will be an established target curve for earbuds, even though I've probably published the most posts on the topic. There are just too many variables with not enough market adoption to make it a reality. In the context of this discussion, I assume "target curve" to mean the following:Yeah, @Ronion and our boys here will definitely nail it, bit by bit
We really need to set some standard at least, hopefully the framework will be established in the near future.
As for measuring, IEC standards doesn't really do anything meaningful to earbuds right now.
- a standard of sorts that has wide spread recognition (ie. harman, df, etc.)
- a reference for manufacturers to use in tuning their products.
- a consistent visualization that can peg other FR graphs for comparison
That said, I think the few that have given my compensation files a chance would agree that they make a positive difference. Ignore my work previous to version 1.3 (those were a wreck).
captione
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Who knows? It might be possible, and I don’t see the reason accommodating those market adoption variables when it can start small to a community like this thread has.
With the tools for graphing getting more accessible to the budget-minded, it would be at least helpful to set a target curve that states the third you mentioned, just so people here actually knows what to see without scratching heads.
Do you have a thread or a link to those measurements and compensation files? I'm interested to look at it! I wanna study and look further into the topic on hand
No, what I mean is the price difference. It's a 700% price increase from one earbud to another, what im discussing is if it's 700% better which I doubt.
Of course there are fakes. The pk3 was a cheap earbud and apparently it had fakes because people described a sound that wasn't the one I got which was the original and was superb.
Which is the b40 real link anyway? Why does NiceHCK have 2 stores?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000120453244.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.595f63a6FMDZ05&algo_pvid=1024260d-1aa0-44cd-9756-8f38ed04502d&algo_exp_id=1024260d-1aa0-44cd-9756-8f38ed04502d-0&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id":"10000000331421984"}&pdp_pi=-1;9.99;-1;-1@salePrice;USD;search-mainSearch
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003155265272.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.595f63a6FMDZ05&algo_pvid=1024260d-1aa0-44cd-9756-8f38ed04502d&algo_exp_id=1024260d-1aa0-44cd-9756-8f38ed04502d-1&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id":"12000024395181560"}&pdp_pi=-1;9.9;-1;-1@salePrice;USD;search-mainSearch
The 2 stores:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1825606?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.595f63a6FMDZ05
https://nicehck.aliexpress.com/store/5380078?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.595f63a6FMDZ05
Also, I see one that says 2021:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....store_pc_allProduct.8148356.9.2631df51kqs8XQ
this is confusing
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RikudouGoku
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Diminishing returns exists you know?
That kinda mindset that you get exactly the same sound performance increase for the same price difference just does not work.
Sam L
Headphoneus Supremus
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbud-target-curve-tests.944006/Who knows? It might be possible, and I don’t see the reason accommodating those market adoption variables when it can start small to a community like this thread has.
With the tools for graphing getting more accessible to the budget-minded, it would be at least helpful to set a target curve that states the third you mentioned, just so people here actually knows what to see without scratching heads.
Do you have a thread or a link to those measurements and compensation files? I'm interested to look at it! I wanna study and look further into the topic on hand
Indeed, but how diminishing is it in this case? sometimes the extra price is worth it and sometimes it isnt.
B40 in any shop is the same product.
Buy the one with the lowest price you are particular about.
>Why does NiceHCK have 2 stores?
>Also, I see one that says 2021:
I don't know why, so ask the shop directly.
And goodbye.
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