[golov17]

Blue ever Blue vs VE

 

[Tyll Hertsens]

  So here's a question, guys.  Does Tyll from Innerfidelity not know how to properly set up his rig to measure earbus?  Because his earbuds measurements always seem to end up looking like this:
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/YuinPK1.pdf

Holy crap.  LOOK AT THAT DISTORTION.  Look at that COMPLETE LACK OF BASS.  I find it impossible to believe that a product costing over 100 dollars, which people seem to love a great deal, measures that damn badly, because with measuremetns like that it couldn't possibly sound good.
 
Thoughts, anyone?  Does Tyll just not like earbuds much and so he doesn't bother setting up the measuring rig well for them, or something?

 
They're ear buds, and lack any kind of good seal.  Ear buds are the worst of all types of headphone because of it. The PK1 actually measures pretty well compared to other ear buds. 

 

[goodyfresh]

   
They're ear buds, and lack any kind of good seal.  Ear buds are the worst of all types of headphone because of it. The PK1 actually measures pretty well compared to other ear buds. 

I don't hear levels of distortion THAT high from earbuds though, man :-/

 

[chrisjackson]

  I don't hear levels of distortion THAT high from earbuds though, man :-/

Don't worry about it. Some mammals remember when wow, flutter and rumble measurements were the only available criteria for judging a turntable.

 

[chrisjackson]

BTW on a serious note (OK not very) I find a difference between the VE Monk and AKG K317 in that I prefer the former with as tight a seal as possible in my ears. I see the latter doesn't have any holes on the rear of the housing and does sound congested to me when fitting very tightly.

 

[goodyfresh]

  Don't worry about it. Some mammals remember when wow, flutter and rumble measurements were the only available criteria for judging a turntable.

LMAO I am not an elephant-seal, dude

 

[waynes world]

  BTW on a serious note (OK not very) I find a difference between the VE Monk and AKG K317 in that I prefer the former with as tight a seal as possible in my ears. I see the latter doesn't have any holes on the rear of the housing and does sound congested to me when fitting very tightly.

 
You avatar... V7... good headphone!

 

[waynes world]

 
They're ear buds, and lack any kind of good seal.  Ear buds are the worst of all types of headphone because of it. The PK1 actually measures pretty well compared to other ear buds. 

 
Hi Tyll, thanks for dropping by. I think that you would love the VE Zens (regardless of how they measure). Hopefully you get a chance to hear them some day.

 

[chrisjackson]

 
LMAO I am not an elephant-seal, dude

Sorry, no offence intended; it wasn't meant to be a picture of you.
My understanding is that your all-consuming issue is lack of seal rather than being one. Maybe it was unconscious tact at work which prevented me from posting these links to pictures of Monk Seals :
http://www.hawaiipictureoftheday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/hawaiian-monk-seal.jpg
https://www.nwf.org/~/media/Content/National%20Wildlife%20Magazine%20Layouts/2013/monk-seals-DJ13-1.ashx
Seriously, do hope you can find a satisfactory solution to your requirements.

 

[chrisjackson]

   
You avatar... V7... good headphone!

They were about £70 back in 1989/90 which might seem quite a lot now but I suppose such things were more expensive. Still I reckon they gave good service : got plenty of use and at no time felt like they would fail me. Usual postscript : with a nephew now...

 

[goodyfresh]

   
Hi Tyll, thanks for dropping by. I think that you would love the VE Zens (regardless of how they measure). Hopefully you get a chance to hear them some day.

I bet he'd even love the Monks, especially given the pricetag on them!  Despite how earbuds seem to measure with his rig, I do NOT hear such high levels of distortion in the bass from the Monks, ever, I mean really, 10% or higher THD+N at 100Hz???  That is NOT what I hear from the Monks.

 

[BloodyPenguin]

I guess I am lucky, I get a very nice seal in some of my earbuds.  The bass quality on my Suvov S20/S10 is one of the best of any of my inventory.
 
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[golov17]

Del

 

[goodyfresh]

@golov17
 
I joined the BeB 328R Mass Drop  I'll let you know what I think of them once they get to me in mid-to-late December!
 
Thanks again for the recommendation!  I'm hoping they'll fit my ears better than the Monks do, and will sound better than the Monks too, as you seem to think they probably will in my case :-D  If not, it's no big deal, they were only 20 dollars and if I end up not liking them they could make a good gift to a friend for Christmas

 

[golov17]

@golov17


I joined the BeB 328R Mass Drop  I'll let you know what I think of them once they get to me in mid-to-late December!

Thanks again for the recommendation!  I'm hoping they'll fit my ears better than the Monks do, and will sound better than the Monks too, as you seem to think they probably will in my case :-D  If not, it's no big deal, they were only 20 dollars and if I end up not liking them they could make a good gift to a friend for Christmas

OK, good luck