Well folks. I have come up with a final solution for the Moondrop Chaconne. As you may, or may not know, I have been searching for a solution to help keep these in my ears while I work, or play. These are heavy enough that you could walk, and stuff like that, but anything that involves moving your head quickly, or bending over, and etc... does not work too well with them.
At first I tried silicone rings, and they worked a bit better than foams alone, but still liked to drop out when turning my head quickly. Next I tried some aftermarket silicone wings. They worked, and in the short term they were pretty comfortable. But after a time (about an hour or so), they really started to irritate my ears. On top of that, because they were clipped to the front of the driver, they held the buds too far out from my ear canal. It didn't hurt the sound TOO much, but the bass was made much less, and those that have heard the Chaconne know that they can't afford to lose any quantity of bass.
They are made of pretty soft (yet rigid) plastic. To the point that they don't snap back to the original position, but actually stay where you put them (to an extent). This makes them basically moldable to your ear structure. The "C" type hooks are removeable from the ear hooks and are made much more rigid and not really pliable, giving them much more tensile strength. Because they clip on the narrow barrel near the back of the bud shell, they hold the buds closer to the ear canal (but not so much that you ruin the sound staging for these).
I have been wearing them with this setup for some hours now, and OH BOY! I can't tell I have the buds on except for the beautiful sounds I am hearing. And I could probably play freeze tag with these on without them even moving (if anyone remembers that game from their youth ).
Anywho, here are some pics to show what they look like, and how they fit on the buds:
X6 vs SL 2.5:
Cleaner and more tonally correct. More mid-bass on the SL causing some slight bleed into the mids and overly warm.
Almost no bass extension and rumble compared to the X6. Speed is similar but tighter and a lot more texture on the X6.
Tonality is more correct on the X6 due to it being brighter and cleaner. Mid-bass bloat is affecting the violins and it sounds unclean on it on the SL.
Thanks! I wonder why the idea didn't seem to catch on with more buds being as how this is a weakness to them, especially on the heavier ones (which pretty much describes all of the so called TOTL buds out there nowadays)?! Maybe at least as an add-in option.
Thanks! I wonder why the idea didn't seem to catch on with more buds being as how this is a weakness to them, especially on the heavier ones (which pretty much describes all of the so called TOTL buds out there nowadays)?! Maybe at least as an add-in option.
Honestly I feel as if they make the shells small enough to force you out of using one , I guess people just expect you to just sit down and listen to your buds at specific times of day without using them outside
Thanks! I wonder why the idea didn't seem to catch on with more buds being as how this is a weakness to them, especially on the heavier ones (which pretty much describes all of the so called TOTL buds out there nowadays)?! Maybe at least as an add-in option.
I think that although it is ergonomically logical to use it with adjustment problems, it does away with the concept of buds, making it more cumbersome to use on the go. That and that the buds that have implemented it have not had a great reception / many sales.
Just corrected my list. Yes, the Svara-L 2018 came in 32 ohm impedance. I also added the Svara Pro as well which was the first maze design but was short-lived and soon after replaced by the original ST-10.
In practice it shouldn't make any difference. In theory it will make for a cleaner overall sound. It is like having a discrete ground for both left and right. But even if if DID make a difference, it would be so miniscule that you would be hard pressed to notice. It will only really be noticed by those that want every drop of blackness they can get, and can't get it out of their head that it isn't the BEST it can possibly be for the tech we have. Though this whole thing hinges on the implementation of the jack itself anyhow. hehe
Honestly I feel as if they make the shells small enough to force you out of using one , I guess people just expect you to just sit down and listen to your buds at specific times of day without using them outside
Good point. But if I were making buds, I would want to get away from the past, and make them as versatile as possible?! All-rounders if you will. The lighter ones I can totally see this, because (when they fit right) they tend to be pretty solid in the ear. But with the "innovation" of using metals for some of the higher end ones, it seems as though they would try and solve the most obvious problem with them..
Just corrected my list. Yes, the Svara-L 2018 came in 32 ohm impedance. I also added the Svara Pro as well which was the first maze design but was short-lived and soon after replaced by the original ST-10.
Which I still, for the life of me, have trouble wrapping my head around. Why, if you have independent signal and return for each channel, do you also need a common ground for the jacket? I understand the theoretical noise rejection angle, but does it translate practically or was this just another attempt to make another standard that wasn't 2.5mm?
As the engineering joke goes: we had 23 standards....someone decided that was too many and harmonization was required. We now have 24 standards.
Good point. But if I were making buds, I would want to get away from the past, and make them as versatile as possible?! All-rounders if you will. The lighter ones I can totally see this, because (when they fit right) they tend to be pretty solid in the ear. But with the "innovation" of using metals for some of the higher end ones, it seems as though they would try and solve the most obvious problem with them..
What we need is a return to all-silicone earbud designs. The first person to implement one of those (properly, mind...don't need something that's going to slough pocket lint and dust constantly) is going to make bank. @WoodyLuvr might be a fun project if you can figure out how that molding process works.
In a stunning upset, NiceHCK has completely lapped the Smabat order and is already sitting in US customs while the drivers are parked in Hangzhou customs. Still anybody's game, though. Just excited at the prospect of getting any order from AE in a little over a week, mid-COVID.
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