The discovery thread!

[awacs7n]

Could say the same about the B3 I think. Most of the hype for it came from it following in the footsteps of the well-loved B2 Dusk.

I like the DT600 more. Owning the AQ4 felt redundant.

the easy way is to tune the next model to a lower one. I'm confused about the b3, I've read a few reviews and not a lot of good things are being said.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

From all of the reviews that I’ve read, the Blessing 3 is an evolutionary step from the B2, not the B2 Dusk. Moondrop has confirmed that a B3 Dusk is in the works.

Right,

I have Blessing 2, Blessing 2 Dusk, and Blessing 3, B3 is successor of B2 from the way Moondrop tunes it.


B2 Dusk is tuned to fit modern pop music, with sub-bass heavy rhythm section emphasis, and 3khz peak to highlight female vocals details, a modern and crisp way of coloration.

Visual example of way of sound presentation:

Pay attention to resolutions, image focus, color naturalness, and contrasts.
Blessing 3

Blessing 2:

Blessing 2 Dusk:

 

[awacs7n]

I’d recommend investing on a DAP may pay better return on investment than going another transducer.

It’s totally your personal take that you feel P8 is “overly reacted“ “backed by monetary motivation “ which I can claim I’m not.

I don’t receive any kick backs, nor compensated by any means.

I can claim this under the penalty of perjury of United States, and I‘m a Notary Public myself, if you believe it or not. I’m telling the truth, the whole truth, nothing but truth.

There are certain group of people who dislike others to praise a particular item, and simply label it as “hype” or “shill”, I don’t understand why you can’t praise a thing that deserves for its performance though.

It’s simple, good thing gets praised, bad thing gets criticized.

what I'm saying has nothing to do with make or model, new models are often exaggerated and real results appear after a few months. I think p8 is exaggerated because it is new, for now, my opinion will not change until I see the real results. I have seen and experienced many examples of this here. It's hard not to have seen examples of this thing.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

what I'm saying has nothing to do with make or model, new models are often exaggerated and real results appear after a few months. I think p8 is exaggerated because it is new, for now, my opinion will not change until I see the real results. I have seen and experienced many examples of this here. It's hard not to have seen examples of this thing.

I see, the new product excitement does exist, it is smart to give it a month or so to see if the momentum continues.

Of which I’m pretty sure P8 will establish a solid fanbase, due to unique way of tonal expressions, things that are not substitutable generally establish its own “Ecological Niche” , we will see

 

[awacs7n]

I see, the new product excitement does exist, it is smart to give it a month or so to see if the momentum continues.

Of which I’m pretty sure P8 will establish a solid fanbase, due to unique way of tonal expressions, things that are not substitutable generally establish its own “Ecological Niche” , we will see

you seem to have both. technically, is b3 better or p8?

 

[AmericanSpirit]

you seem to have both. technically, is b3 better or p8?

P8 is a class above than B3 in technicalities.
On treble both B3 and P8 has smaller gap in technicalities, while P8’s treble detail is still above B3, the mid and bass region technicalities is miles far on B3…no matter how I PEQ B3, hardware set a physical cap on its attainable limit.

I honestly think Moondrop has lost the competition against both AFUL and SoundRhyme in mid $300 segment simply due to technical performance of their offering line ups.

At this pace, once all audiophile community realizes this fact, I can see mighty Moondrop will lose its “top selling market dominator” position sooner or later.

They earned brand establishment simply by good and well tuned IEM, and same thing could happened to AFUL, (not sure about SoundRhyme because their product design is somewhat questionable)

As a long time Moondrop fan, I do see Blessing 3 still is “ok” level for $320, but not “benchmarking” level that every one should reference by 2023 standard.

People would be happy if they like Moondrop’s house tuning, with “ok not bad“ class technicality for $300 something you paid for it.

 

[awacs7n]

P8 is a class above than B3 in technicalities.
On treble both B3 and P8 has smaller gap in technicalities, while P8’s treble detail is still above B3, the mid and bass region technicalities is miles far on B3…no matter how I PEQ B3, hardware set a physical cap on its attainable limit.

I honestly think Moondrop has lost the competition against both AFUL and SoundRhyme in mid $300 segment simply due to technical performance of their offering line ups.

At this pace, once all audiophile community realizes this fact, I can see mighty Moondrop will lose its “top selling market dominator” position sooner or later.

They earned brand establishment simply by good and well tuned IEM, and same thing could happened to AFUL, (not sure about SoundRhyme because their product design is somewhat questionable)

I was surprised, I didn't expect that much of a difference. Although many people say that b3 is professional, the number of critics is also very high. yes, moondrop has had success with secure tuning. that's why models like the aria sold so much.

 

[Dsnuts]

So here is something new. Dont know when Fiio will be releasing this one but its their 2nd TWS in ear. Called the FW3. Uses very similar housing and tech from their FW5 but this one is a single dynamic. Since it has less drivers to work with they are charging $100 spot for these. In any case I started a thread for them. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fiio-fw3.968478/ Will be interesting to hear how this one turned out.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

I never sell any IEMs /headphones for past few decades, it’s all stored or given away to friends, that demand assessment is from watching the market trend.


You sure about M17?

I read “multiple” battery blow up claims on internet that M17’s battery expands and blows the DAP inside out…which I don’t quite see many of those claims on other higher end DAPs. Maybe 320 Max Ti instead?

This happened to three Chinese DAPs in the last two years, so I won't be buying anything like that anymore. The battery expand and blowing out the DAP happened to two Hiby's and my Opus #3. Thank God, so far this has been avoided with my DX170. Solid as a rock! The Sony DAPs have never had this happen, and so far the Fiio has avoided this (to an extend).

 

[Ferdinando1968]

I think the B3 is great, even with the 'dirty' bass @AmericanSpirit talks about.

And, incidentally, I much prefer it to P5, which I also like.
P8 is an improved evolution of P5, and according to many it is superior to P5 on all fronts.

@AmericanSpirit says P8>B3.

I have no reason to doubt his words, he is still a competent person.

Then, it's also always a matter of personal taste.

A lot of people like HEXA (even @AmericanSpirit), while I don't like it.

I bought it and gave it as a gift.
So I made a wrong purchase for me, based on the reviews, ok.

But how many right purchases have I made thanks to the opinion of others?

Many many more, so the balance for me is positive.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

P8 is a class above than B3 in technicalities.
On treble both B3 and P8 has smaller gap in technicalities, while P8’s treble detail is still above B3, the mid and bass region technicalities is miles far on B3…no matter how I PEQ B3, hardware set a physical cap on its attainable limit.

I honestly think Moondrop has lost the competition against both AFUL and SoundRhyme in mid $300 segment simply due to technical performance of their offering line ups.

At this pace, once all audiophile community realizes this fact, I can see mighty Moondrop will lose its “top selling market dominator” position sooner or later.

They earned brand establishment simply by good and well tuned IEM, and same thing could happened to AFUL, (not sure about SoundRhyme because their product design is somewhat questionable)

As a long time Moondrop fan, I do see Blessing 3 still is “ok” level for $320, but not “benchmarking” level that every one should reference by 2023 standard.

People would be happy if they like Moondrop’s house tuning, with “ok not bad“ class technicality for $300 something you paid for it.

I spent time last night with the SR5, after the SR5 discussion. I spent time with it on the A306 and also on my "new" Sony NW-WM1A, and though it's melodic, technically solid, and I still love the bass, the lack of treble and my aching ears just couldn't settle in. My ears are cavernous, and still the size of that shell left my ears just thumping. I've decided for now to pull all three of those IEM's from the market, but I don't see much potential in unloading the SR5 (unless someone is interested?? DM me lol).

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

So here is something new. Dont know when Fiio will be releasing this one but its their 2nd TWS in ear. Called the FW3. Uses very similar housing and tech from their TW5 but this one is a single dynamic. Since it has one less driver to work with they are charging $100 spot for these. In any case I started a thread for them. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fiio-fw3.968478/ Will be interesting to hear how this one turned out.

This might be my first TWS in years?

 

[Dsnuts]

I will post an impression out of the box soon on that thread. Fiio is getting good at making these TWS products. Makes a lot of sense they are moving into the TWS realm as TWS products are more mainstream than wired products in the wild.

If the new FW3 is tuned anything like thier prior FW5 these will be something to look out for. I am talking in sheer SQ perspective forget the fact that they are using their own AKM4332 DAC chip inside the housing. But that is a reason these new Fiio TWS products are intriguing.

 

[FreeWheelinAudioLuv2]

I think the B3 is great, even with the 'dirty' bass @AmericanSpirit talks about.

And, incidentally, I much prefer it to P5, which I also like.
P8 is an improved evolution of P5, and according to many it is superior to P5 on all fronts.

@AmericanSpirit says P8>B3.

I have no reason to doubt his words, he is still a competent person.

Then, it's also always a matter of personal taste.

A lot of people like HEXA (even @AmericanSpirit), while I don't like it.

I bought it and gave it as a gift.
So I made a wrong purchase for me, based on the reviews, ok.

But how many right purchases have I made thanks to the opinion of others?

Many many more, so the balance for me is positive.

I don't think AS has let me down sonically with his recc's (that's in the positive ledger), but the fit has been a strike on more than one occasion. I don't know if his ears are freak show large, or if he's just less tolerant of fit, but three different recc's of his ended up being uncomfortable af. Negative ledger. But sonically, when AS says something sounds good, it usually sounds good.

 

[Ichos]

This might be my first TWS in years?

Add some extra and get the FW5 instead.
Worth it.