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Apr 1, 2023 at 10:57 AM Post #75,481 of 103,410
Apr 1, 2023 at 11:02 AM Post #75,482 of 103,410
Just placed an order for a furukawa cable.

Thanks @Neithan for sharing bargain info.

A Japanese wire manufacturer furukawa‘s copper material used cable from NiceHCK is currently undergoing a bargain at $11.51USD🤯

NiceHCK PurpleSE Imported 8 Strands FURUKAWA Copper Earphone Replace Cable 3.5/4.4mm
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOQc0EE
ACBA26CB-33EE-409F-B6AC-300A3545B95D.jpeg


I know DUNU sells Furukawa wire cable for couple of hundred USDs.
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I have 3 other of NiceHCK incoming, of which I have a high expectation on BlackCat. Which is currently on discount for $12.51 at ”Choice super deal”.
DAF0C45B-FEAB-47C4-8336-3D04BB830AE9.jpeg

NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mseGmOK


NiceHCK official has another BlackCat’s regular price to $79, same price as PW Audio’s Copper 28 V2, so obviously they are targeting to rival PWA’s. $12.51 cable for $79.99😄
380098EF-A95F-4C51-828A-C1689B9FE512.jpeg



Now we see filmsy pricing tactica many cable business are conducting. That thing‘s bare minimum cost is below $12USD👏

DC31375C-97A6-426A-998D-C51A4F906EB4.jpeg

US $79.99 30% Off | NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKI0icq


NiceHCK has one new arrival, a cable looks exactly same to Moondrop Aria’s stock cable…with Moondrop’s logo scratched off on cable splitter component🤔
US $12.99 | NiceHCK 5N Silver Plated OFC
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrytMw2
If so, it may be the one to avoid…Aria‘s stock cable tames resolution. Maybe useful in overly bright IEMs, but otherwise it will muffle sound.
 
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Apr 1, 2023 at 11:26 AM Post #75,483 of 103,410
Just placed an order for a furukawa cable.

Thanks @Neithan for sharing bargain info.

A Japanese wire manufacturer furukawa‘s copper material used cable from NiceHCK is currently undergoing a bargain at $11.51USD🤯

NiceHCK PurpleSE Imported 8 Strands FURUKAWA Copper Earphone Replace Cable 3.5/4.4mm
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOQc0EE
ACBA26CB-33EE-409F-B6AC-300A3545B95D.jpeg

I know DUNU sells Furukawa wire cable for couple of hundred USDs.
C560D3A0-C118-4457-89B4-C62A506C7D29.jpeg

I have 3 other of NiceHCK incoming, of which I have a high expectation on BlackCat. Which is currently on discount for $12.51 at ”Choice super deal”.
DAF0C45B-FEAB-47C4-8336-3D04BB830AE9.jpeg
NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mseGmOK


NiceHCK official has another BlackCat’s regular price to $79, same price as PW Audio’s Copper 28 V2, so obviously they are targeting to rival PWA’s. $12.51 cable for $79.99😄 Now we see filmsy pricing tactica many cable business are conducting. That thing‘s bare minimum cost is below $12USD👏

DC31375C-97A6-426A-998D-C51A4F906EB4.jpeg
US $79.99 30% Off | NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKI0icq
I end up buying for me as well, one with mmcx and other with 2 pins.

I have to stop checking this forum all the time because my wallet hurts
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 11:31 AM Post #75,484 of 103,410
I end up buying for me as well, one with mmcx and other with 2 pins.

I have to stop checking this forum all the time because my wallet hurts
don’t forget about BlackCat😉 Some good feedback on that one too.

Agree on not checking head-fi as sometime it has a flash deal info that‘s hard to resist💸
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 11:33 AM Post #75,485 of 103,410
Just placed an order for a furukawa cable.

Thanks @Neithan for sharing bargain info.

A Japanese wire manufacturer furukawa‘s copper material used cable from NiceHCK is currently undergoing a bargain at $11.51USD🤯

NiceHCK PurpleSE Imported 8 Strands FURUKAWA Copper Earphone Replace Cable 3.5/4.4mm
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOQc0EE
ACBA26CB-33EE-409F-B6AC-300A3545B95D.jpeg

I know DUNU sells Furukawa wire cable for couple of hundred USDs.
C560D3A0-C118-4457-89B4-C62A506C7D29.jpeg

I have 3 other of NiceHCK incoming, of which I have a high expectation on BlackCat. Which is currently on discount for $12.51 at ”Choice super deal”.
DAF0C45B-FEAB-47C4-8336-3D04BB830AE9.jpeg
NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mseGmOK


NiceHCK official has another BlackCat’s regular price to $79, same price as PW Audio’s Copper 28 V2, so obviously they are targeting to rival PWA’s. $12.51 cable for $79.99😄



Now we see filmsy pricing tactica many cable business are conducting. That thing‘s bare minimum cost is below $12USD👏

DC31375C-97A6-426A-998D-C51A4F906EB4.jpeg
US $79.99 30% Off | NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKI0icq
Please share with us all "db levels" of these cables, and how you determine/measure them.
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 11:36 AM Post #75,486 of 103,410
Please share with us all "db levels" of these cables, and how you determine/measure them.
Iet it be all perceived one, so that doesn’t trigger another round of cable discussions👍
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 11:36 AM Post #75,487 of 103,410
Just placed an order for a furukawa cable.

Thanks @Neithan for sharing bargain info.

A Japanese wire manufacturer furukawa‘s copper material used cable from NiceHCK is currently undergoing a bargain at $11.51USD🤯

NiceHCK PurpleSE Imported 8 Strands FURUKAWA Copper Earphone Replace Cable 3.5/4.4mm
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOQc0EE


I know DUNU sells Furukawa wire cable for couple of hundred USDs.


I have 3 other of NiceHCK incoming, of which I have a high expectation on BlackCat. Which is currently on discount for $12.51 at ”Choice super deal”.

NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mseGmOK


NiceHCK official has another BlackCat’s regular price to $79, same price as PW Audio’s Copper 28 V2, so obviously they are targeting to rival PWA’s. $12.51 cable for $79.99😄



Now we see filmsy pricing tactica many cable business are conducting. That thing‘s bare minimum cost is below $12USD👏


US $79.99 30% Off | NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKI0icq
This is a good one, have 3 of it. Very purple. Its just a pure good copper that is cheap.

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Apr 1, 2023 at 11:39 AM Post #75,488 of 103,410
This is a good one, have 3 of it. Very purple. Its just a pure good copper that is cheap.
Good! I‘m expecting good cooper cable that is very purple, so good to know that is verified.
Purple SE may match with black IEM in terms of color theme.

Just saw the picture, wow that’s really astonishingly purple! Great
 
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Apr 1, 2023 at 11:51 AM Post #75,489 of 103,410
On a subject of discoveries (of the old, if not ancient), I have received Ultimate Ears single-BA 600 vi, thanks to @FreeWheelinAudioLuv2
UE600 sound very competitive for 12+ year-old IEM. I also got Nicehck X49 for a change with the cable order - surprisingly decent.
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So I will compare it with my other single BAs: KB Neon (the only Knowles, very capable sound that started this exploration of single BAs, but so impractical fit), FloAudio Lily (nice shell, was not overly impressed by the sound so far, but may need more time) and the zesty DSP-driven tiny and shiny Moondrop Droplet.

Then in the plans still to compare Hola vs LinLong vs. ESX vs. Aria vs. HZ Mirror.

While most of my limited time is now trying to work out T800 - more pledges on variable balanced impedance adapters is to follow...
Got my UE600 vi yesterday and was quite impressed also for what was on offer12 years ago. No deep insertion required to get good sound. Included ear tips are okay, but I seem to get a bit more clarity in the treble and slightly better sound separation by using the much longer nozzle, wide bore Truthear Zero ear tips.
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 12:01 PM Post #75,490 of 103,410
I have 3 other of NiceHCK incoming, of which I have a high expectation on BlackCat. Which is currently on discount for $12.51 at ”Choice super deal”.
DAF0C45B-FEAB-47C4-8336-3D04BB830AE9.jpeg
NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mseGmOK


NiceHCK official has another BlackCat’s regular price to $79, same price as PW Audio’s Copper 28 V2, so obviously they are targeting to rival PWA’s. $12.51 cable for $79.99😄
380098EF-A95F-4C51-828A-C1689B9FE512.jpeg


Now we see filmsy pricing tactica many cable business are conducting. That thing‘s bare minimum cost is below $12USD👏

DC31375C-97A6-426A-998D-C51A4F906EB4.jpeg
US $79.99 30% Off | NiceHCK BlackCat Zinc Copper Alloy Oil Soaked HIFI Earphone Upgrade Cable
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKI0icq
The reason the cables are so discounted is that Choice is an Aliexpress new business division and it is currently being trialed with some store select products nominated by some Aliexpress select stores who are participating in a marketing trial with Aliexpress themselves providing the majority of the discounting.

The shops themselves are unlikely to come down to the choice pricing without a marketplace subsidy from what I am informed.
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 12:07 PM Post #75,491 of 103,410
Here you go, nearly midnight here in the land down under but I took my coupler out just for you :beyersmile:

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Channel matching, overview of the tonal balance, and comparison between ear-gain and bass shelf.

Noted that the treble nozzle, a.k.a., the most spicy configuration is used here.


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MS5 vs my U12T.

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MS5 vs Noble Kublai Khan


In general, these are unique IEMs that are not entirely similar to anything. The best way to describe them is "U-shape": big (sub) bass, and strong (mid) treble (8kHz). The midrange is more relaxed than reference tuning (Harman / DF) because the ear-gain is only 5-6dB. Vocals are not recessed or buried under the mix. In some senses, they are kind of similar to the more relaxed midrange of U12T and Andromeda, but warmer than the U12T and cooler than the Andromeda. There is no vocal shoutiness, even with Ed Sheeran's "=" album.

The strong 8kHz region gives this IEM sparkle and stage height (some instruments, even piano notes fly above my head). But, it can emphasise sibilance. It's not a shrill and sibilance feast like my Final A4000, so I am not annoyed by it too much. In some sense, this kind of tuning is reminiscent of both Noble Kublai Khan and Meze Advar. If you love them, you love them. If you hate them, you hate them a lot. I personally love the Advar.

An interesting observation: usually, the ear gain peak is balanced with or higher than bass shelf. With both MS5 and Kublai Khan, the 5-8kHz is the top, matching the top of the bass shelf.

Noted that these are based on the treble nozzle. With the bass nozzle, the entire mid-treble is pulled down by a few dB, changing the entire tonal balance into a warm and more cohesive sound. I like the extra sizzle and details, so I stick to the treble nozzle.
Just noticed that FR.

Hmm…old school no-pinna focus Ultimate ears style V maybe? Looks like an old Sony. That 12khz dip is so deep🤯
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Apr 1, 2023 at 12:12 PM Post #75,492 of 103,410
I have one incoming, and I will have my input on NiceHCK cable walk throughs I guess.

Currently for latest line up of NiceHCK:
OrangeSir
MixPP
RedAg
BlackCat
BlackSoul
DragonScale


NiceHCK is offering best cost performing cables over XINHS especially for sub$50 segment to my impression. KBEAR is performing better than XINHS in sub$50 segment as well. Right now XINHS offers various cables from $7-13, which is pretty good grade but when compared to MixPP and RedAg, it’s a tough call.

For $50-100 segment there are many other high-end competitors like Null Audio, PW Audio, Satin Audio that offers their entry level from $70~.
Would be very useful to have a list of good CHEAP cables, for pairing with cheap (sub-$50 or sub-$100) IEMs...
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 12:13 PM Post #75,493 of 103,410
The reason the cables are so discounted is that Choice is an Aliexpress new business division and it is currently being trialed with some store select products nominated by some Aliexpress select stores who are participating in a marketing trial with Aliexpress themselves providing the majority of the discounting.

The shops themselves are unlikely to come down to the choice pricing without a marketplace subsidy from what I am informed.
I see, an involuntary dumping sale from Aliexpress side.

Great for consumer, pity for seller😵

At least seller can clock qty sold to make it appear very hot items during that choice super deal, still I see $12.51 of this choice super deal is even lower than Stores own lowest offer during Anniversary sale @$14.23. Poor sellers.
 
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Apr 1, 2023 at 12:28 PM Post #75,494 of 103,410
I see, an involuntary dumping sale from Aliexpress side.

Great for consumer, pity for seller😵

At least seller can clock qty sold to make it appear very hot items during that choice super deal, still I see $12.51 of this choice super deal is even lower than Stores own lowest offer during Anniversary sale @$14.23. Poor sellers.
You say poor sellers but if they would've sold 100 for $14.23 during the Anniversary sale, but sell 500 for $12.51 because it gets noticed during this Choice trial run, they're making more money
 
Apr 1, 2023 at 12:36 PM Post #75,495 of 103,410
don’t forget about BlackCat😉 Some good feedback on that one too.

Agree on not checking head-fi as sometime it has a flash deal info that‘s hard to resist💸
Already bought...

I'm curious about the BlackSoul... Bought one for the SR5, but it may also pair well with my Timeless OG...
 

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