[Yethal]

Yeah that's what I was trying to say (in my incoherent ramble). My virtual surround utopia is a standard, true 3D audio headphone solution that is available on every game, is 100% software based (so, use any hardware and headphones you want) and is so good you actually really are missing out NOT using headphones vs. surround (channel-based) speakers when playing.

If Windows Sonic and Atmos were actually working products we could already be here but they are currently not as good as the channel virtualizing competition.

We had that back in Windows XP days, back then games were able to interface directly with audio hardware the way they are able to interface directly with gpus so the games passed the information about location of the audio sources relative to the camera to the sound card, the soundcard rendered it and divided it into channels so regardless of whether you were playing on headphones or speakers you got the same 360 degree soundscape.

 

[AxelCloris]

What amp would you suggest, preferably one that's easily available to mainland Europe?

What's the budget for an amp? There's a number of amps that pair well with the K701.

 

[Yngvarr]

What's the budget for an amp? There's a number of amps that pair well with the K701.

I'd say, preferably below 250 Dollars/ Euro's.
And it's only to power headphones, i don't have the space for a speaker setup.

I was thinking something like the JDS Objective 2 or VMV SMSL VA-2 VA2

 

[Fegefeuer]

Matrix Audio M-Stage HPA-3U +


http://matrix-digi-usa.com/m-stage-series/m-stage-hpa-3u

it's over 250 dollars but then a one time buy and never look back.

 

[Yngvarr]

Matrix Audio M-Stage HPA-3U +


http://matrix-digi-usa.com/m-stage-series/m-stage-hpa-3u

it's over 250 dollars but then a one time buy and never look back.

I don't have any use for the balance headphone jack, I don't have any headphones with that plug.
Also, i'm not sure it comes with the right power plug for my country's powersockets.

Upon further research, I've found out that the AKG K701 seems to be picky in the amp department.
Listed as a great choice was the Vioelectric V200, which i believe had been suggested here also.
I've also read that they sound great when using a quality tube-amp.
Now, that is somewhat out of my budget, however people seem to power them fine with a Magni 2/ Modi stack.

Now, since apparently people can use these headphones fine with the Schiit stack, and because it's still somewhat in my price range, i'm leaning towards that option.

 

[Stillhart]

I don't have any use for the balance headphone jack, I don't have any headphones with that plug.
Also, i'm not sure it comes with the right power plug for my country's powersockets.

Upon further research, I've found out that the AKG K701 seems to be picky in the amp department.
Listed as a great choice was the Vioelectric V200, which i believe had been suggested here also.
I've also read that they sound great when using a quality tube-amp.
Now, that is somewhat out of my budget, however people seem to power them fine with a Magni 2/ Modi stack.

Now, since apparently people can use these headphones fine with the Schiit stack, and because it's still somewhat in my price range, i'm leaning towards that option.

Schiit won't pair well with them. You want something a little warmer to offset the brightness of the 701. Violectric are notoriously warm so they'd make a solid pairing. I'm not sure if their cheaper Lake People amps are warm too, but you might look into those. I second the Matrix M-Stage, as it's the first amp I ever bought and I got it to pair with my Q701. You might see if you can find an older one on the used market for cheap. I had a HPA-1 and it was great for what I needed.

I'd also look into the integrated Audio-GD solutions. The NFB-15 was my upgrade path from the Matrix and I thought it was a pretty great upgrade all around. They don't make that one anymore, but there are plenty of other options, both new and used, floating around.

 

[Yngvarr]

Schiit won't pair well with them. You want something a little warmer to offset the brightness of the 701. Violectric are notoriously warm so they'd make a solid pairing. I'm not sure if their cheaper Lake People amps are warm too, but you might look into those. I second the Matrix M-Stage, as it's the first amp I ever bought and I got it to pair with my Q701. You might see if you can find an older one on the used market for cheap. I had a HPA-1 and it was great for what I needed.

I'd also look into the integrated Audio-GD solutions. The NFB-15 was my upgrade path from the Matrix and I thought it was a pretty great upgrade all around. They don't make that one anymore, but there are plenty of other options, both new and used, floating around.

So, something like this then?
http://audiomagic.eu/en/matrix-audio-2/matrix-m-stage-hpa-3u-with-usb?from=listing

 

[Stillhart]

So, something like this then?
http://audiomagic.eu/en/matrix-audio-2/matrix-m-stage-hpa-3u-with-usb?from=listing

Well that's the same one you said you didn't want so... no?

 

[Yngvarr]

Well that's the same one you said you didn't want so... no?

well, if the other option is to always use the cans underpowered...
and at the same time, i suppose it's somewhat futureproof.

 

[Stillhart]

well, if the other option is to always use the cans underpowered...
and at the same time, i suppose it's somewhat futureproof.

You could always try asking in the K701 thread for good amp pairings at a given price point.

 

[Yngvarr]

You could always try asking in the K701 thread for good amp pairings at a given price point.

I've read that the Heed Canamp works really well with the K701's.
It's a bit more expensive then i would've wanted.

But you can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

 

[unexpectedkAs]

Hi all,

I have the Audio Technica AD700x and I wpuld like to use them with my Xbox One X. I also would like to be able to use the microphone from the headset that comes with the xbox (which is just one ear and the mic).

I mainly play FPS (Destiny 2) and racing games (Forza).

How can I get the best sound out of the xbox with this config and a budget of 250usd?

I have read to use the MixAmp Pro TR White with an amp, but I am lost here. There are no comments on the first page regarding performance of the AMP/DACs on consoles.

Any advice is appreciated.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

Still, Audio-GDs interested solutions don't have analog inputs so you can't use them with external VSS solutions.

As for Xbox solutions, I'm sorry that I have no knowledge of what works and what doesn't. Last Xbox I owned was a 360 back in the day. We have an XB1S at home but it ain't mine and it's only used so very infrequently just for 4k Blu-Ray use.

 

[Yethal]

Still, Audio-GDs interested solutions don't have analog inputs so you can't use them with external VSS solutions.

As for Xbox solutions, I'm sorry that I have no knowledge of what works and what doesn't. Last Xbox I owned was a 360 back in the day. We have an XB1S at home but it ain't mine and it's only used so very infrequently just for 4k Blu-Ray use.

They do now, check out nfb 28.38 for example.

 

[illram]

If Mobius uses Waves Nx, and if you already have good cans, does Mobius offer anything as far as surround virtualization different than Waves + its tracker?