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Dec 9, 2015 at 3:38 PM Post #33,271 of 48,578
purpleangel said:
   
Not even sure the E07K can even work with a gaming console?
I'm guessing not.
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I can't find anything that says it does or not. Wouldn't it work if I just ran it through the controller's 3.5mm jack?
 
Will 24-bit/192kHz be much of a difference versus 24-bit/96 khz for gaming? I don't have an optical port in my computer so I'd only be able to take advantage of it on my console.
 
Dec 9, 2015 at 4:19 PM Post #33,272 of 48,578
Some interesting shots of the G5. I still don't see a traditional optical in for console?! 
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http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201512090066/
 
Dec 9, 2015 at 4:29 PM Post #33,273 of 48,578
Optical In is a given then. Great.

Just use a 3,5mm Adapter. Plenty of soundcards need one for optical

 
Dec 9, 2015 at 4:29 PM Post #33,274 of 48,578
kariak said:
  I can't find anything that says it does or not. Wouldn't it work if I just ran it through the controller's 3.5mm jack?
 
Will 24-bit/192kHz be much of a difference versus 24-bit/96 khz for gaming? I don't have an optical port in my computer so I'd only be able to take advantage of it on my console
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So with the gaming console you would only use the E07K's amplifier, not it's DAC feature.
CD music audio is 16-bit/44.1K, guessing 24-bit/48K is more then enough for gaming audio (or DVD movies?).
So the chance of you needing more then 24-bit/96K is very remote.
 
Dec 9, 2015 at 6:19 PM Post #33,275 of 48,578
Dec 9, 2015 at 7:38 PM Post #33,277 of 48,578
So with the gaming console you would only use the E07K's amplifier, not it's DAC feature.
CD music audio is 16-bit/44.1K, guessing 24-bit/48K is more then enough for gaming audio (or DVD movies?).
So the chance of you needing more then 24-bit/96K is very remote.
This!
 
Dec 9, 2015 at 9:46 PM Post #33,278 of 48,578
You do not need 24/96. The amount of everyday content that uses that is pretty damn small. I don't think I have anything that uses those bitrates.

The only benefit of going with 24/96 for PC for me is that lowering volume doesn't reduce the bitrate, unlike 16/44, which will reduce bitrate from optimal. Not sure exactly how it all works.

In fact, my X7 pops and crackles if I play 24/96. I had to lower to 24/48 which gives me no pops or crackles. And guess, what? My stuff sounds the same. You literally need to look for 24/96 audio files to gain that benefit. Hell, I'm the type who's happy with 320kbps MP3s. :wink:
 
Dec 10, 2015 at 5:23 AM Post #33,280 of 48,578
Seriously. Pick a good game that takes advantage of surround, and play in virtual surround for a week without playing or testing stereo. After that week, put stereo back on.

You'll feel like you put blinders on.

My dilemma at the moment is that the games I'm playing are in stereo. Well my main game is surround, but it's bugged and causes pops and crackles, as well as muting the characters and some sound effects. That's upsetting.
 
Dec 10, 2015 at 11:11 AM Post #33,281 of 48,578
Creative just sent me an email stating that the G5 is ready to go (alongside a coupon code). Anyone here willing to be the early buyer?
 
Dec 10, 2015 at 11:30 AM Post #33,283 of 48,578
yethal said:
Creative just sent me an email stating that the G5 is ready to go (alongside a coupon code). Anyone here willing to be the early buyer?
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Maybe it released in Europe first? I talked to Ryan Schliepper at RMAF about a bunch of things, and they agreed that they wanted to send me a G5 so I could review it. I've heard from them a few times since, but not in the past week, and I didn't get an email from Creative saying that the G5 has been released.

I did get a (US?) coupon code yesterday if anyone wants it, 30% off excluding things on lightning sales:
GIMME30

If you have an X7 or just want Bluetooth audio from the PS4, Creative's Bluetooth dongle is $27.99 with code
Code DOES work with the X7 LE, bringing that down to $350.
Code does NOT work on the X7, which has its own sale of $350 + includes the Bluetooth dongle.

If you're getting an X7, you might as well pick up the E-MU XM-7 speakers while you're at it (because otherwise you'd get a DSP without a speaker amp). $80 when bought with any X7, or $100 bought separately with a code. I haven't heard these speakers (the other person's big review of the X7 also reviews the speakers), but I bet they were designed with the X7's power output in mind. My Chane speakers are 8 ohms and harder to drive, the standard X7 is a bit weak for these speakers, but my Polk Monitor M40's sounded great, so I think speaker choice makes a difference.
 
Dec 10, 2015 at 12:17 PM Post #33,284 of 48,578
I'm so torn on the G5 versus X7. Now that PS4 streams Spotify, I find myself rarely grabbing my computer to play music. Certainly wouldn't have use for the speaker amplification of the X7, either. With the promo code "Extra25" the X7 and Bluetooth dongle can be had for 324.99, plus tax.

Conversely, the G5 looks impressive and presumably will have comparable, but maybe not quite as impressive DAC capabilities. It also figures to be considerably cheaper and I could sell my class-A modded Matrix M-Stage and Mixamp 2013 to pay for it entirely.

Any thoughts from you experts?
 
Dec 10, 2015 at 1:01 PM Post #33,285 of 48,578
Didn't know about the "extra25" code, does it work even double-stacking with the "lightning" deal on the X7?

On one hand, the X7's DAC is a step up, you'll have more setup flexibility for the future (computer or passive speakers, did I mention I use the speaker amp for my Stax?), and it's A/C wall powered so you'll get better amping performance. It also doesn't look like the G5 is available in the U.S.A. yet (if that is relevant to you). I'd probably pick this option if I was gaming/chilling to movies/music on a TV in a living room or den.

On the other hand, the G5 is more compact, costs less, and still ought to be a noticeable upgrade from the Mixamp (tho the amp probably won't compete with your M-Stage, it still ought to be enough). I'd probably pick this option if I was gaming at a computer desk.

I do game from a computer desk... But as it happens, I have use for all of the X7's features. I recommend being happy with whatever you chose :)
 
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