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Mar 15, 2016 at 7:10 AM Post #34,546 of 48,566
Well since I intend to use the headphones for gaming only (and not competitive, i'm speaking about AAA titles such as Tomb Raider or The Division or whatever will be out) I would want to have a decent amount of bass. The Fidelio X2 is 100€ above the DT990 and 80€ above the HD598. So from now on I'll wait a little bit.
 
The other option is now to order a DT990 from Amazon and send it back if I do not like it :D
edit: DT990 250ohm ordered. Let's see how they do.
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 8:56 AM Post #34,547 of 48,566
Mukumi, think about a Fidelio X1 as well. It has more bass and is more immersive than the X2 and basically all the ones you were looking into, and it should also be a bit cheaper. It's really enjoyable, with some thick, rumbly bass.
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 9:40 AM Post #34,548 of 48,566
Mukumi, think about a Fidelio X1 as well. It has more bass and is more immersive than the X2 and basically all the ones you were looking into, and it should also be a bit cheaper. It's really enjoyable, with some thick, rumbly bass.

 
Well I found those graphs from a website that I trust and DT990 and X1 seems to share the same kind of  signature:
 
X1:

 
DT990:

 
Sources: http://www.lesnumeriques.com/casque-audio/philips-fidelio-x1-p14348/test.html (in French sorry) and http://www.digitalversus.com/headphones/beyerdynamic-dt-990-pro-p21660/test.html
 
Couldn't find a X1 only X2. So I'll give a try to the DT990 (139€ via Amazon) and as I said I can send them back if i'm not happy. Thanks for your help, I'll let you know how I feel about them.
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 10:16 AM Post #34,549 of 48,566
Won't this solve the problem?

 
Oh, hey, would you look at that? I didn't even know they sold standalone drivers! Most manufacturers these days would rather just have you buy a new product at full price.
 
I need the North American site, though, so let's see what I can dig up...
http://www.head-fi.org/t/683765/so-i-broke-my-dt770-driver-during-recabling
http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/service/spare-parts.html
 
Looks like I can expect $80 shipped for a new driver if the post in that DT770 thread's anything to go by. Ouch. But hey, at least it's much cheaper than buying a new MMX 300 outright.
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 10:56 AM Post #34,550 of 48,566
Shoulkdn't you be bying a pair of matched drivers? Who knows what sorts of minor adjustments or sonic differences were made between what you have and now. Lol.
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 11:19 AM Post #34,551 of 48,566
Mukumi, think about a Fidelio X1 as well. It has more bass and is more immersive than the X2 and basically all the ones you were looking into, and it should also be a bit cheaper. It's really enjoyable, with some thick, rumbly bass.

Could you please give a more detailed comparison between the two regarding soundstage, imaging, bass, and performance when plugged to a portable device like an iphone?
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 1:54 PM Post #34,553 of 48,566
When one is using a Mixamp Pro and a seperate Amp, which one would you control the volume from?  E09K has a seperate volume knob so I don't really understand how you deal with this.
 
Also, if an amp has a built in DAC, does that override anything on the Mixamp?  Does that Mixamp just become a surround sound device at that point?  I'm trying to find a cheap but decent amp for the K712 Pros.
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 3:51 PM Post #34,554 of 48,566
You would control it using the separate amp, with the Mixamp at max, or close to max, volume. 

I personally don't have experience with E09k, so I wouldn't know if it will change anything. However, I did use my K712s with a Magni 2 Uber and Mixamp combo for a little bit and that worked really well.
 
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  When one is using a Mixamp Pro and a seperate Amp, which one would you control the volume from?  E09K has a seperate volume knob so I don't really understand how you deal with this.
 
Also, if an amp has a built in DAC, does that override anything on the Mixamp?  Does that Mixamp just become a surround sound device at that point?  I'm trying to find a cheap but decent amp for the K712 Pros.

 
Mar 15, 2016 at 5:52 PM Post #34,556 of 48,566


Thank you for the reply. Do you find your K7's immersive? I only ask because I had X1 before and thought they were very well balanced overall. I don't listen to music so gaming and films only.
I'm not against getting X1 again but I'd like to try something new. Immersion is more important to me than precision as I'm not a big competitive gamer.
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 6:48 PM Post #34,557 of 48,566
I find them to be pretty immersive, but that depends on personal preference. I love the super wide soundstage of my K712s because it gives the objects in the game a realistic presence as to how close/far they are in the game, which for me is more immersive.

​On the plus side they also work great for those times when you do want to listen to music.
 
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Mar 15, 2016 at 7:19 PM Post #34,559 of 48,566
   
Oh, hey, would you look at that? I didn't even know they sold standalone drivers! Most manufacturers these days would rather just have you buy a new product at full price.
 
I need the North American site, though, so let's see what I can dig up...
http://www.head-fi.org/t/683765/so-i-broke-my-dt770-driver-during-recabling
http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/service/spare-parts.html
 
Looks like I can expect $80 shipped for a new driver if the post in that DT770 thread's anything to go by. Ouch. But hey, at least it's much cheaper than buying a new MMX 300 outright.


Or You can just go full pimp and buy the Tesla drivers
 
Mar 15, 2016 at 9:47 PM Post #34,560 of 48,566
Not sure I'd go Tesla. The ones I've heard have been pretty... polarizing to say the least.
 

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