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[WarriorAnt]

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LCD-2 is an excellent kisser (but really uncomfortable to wear (compared to HD800), also a bit worried about listening fatigue) , but I really like the freshness of the HD800 (very comfortable, can wear them all day no problem without any fatigue at all).
 

Benn kissing my LCD-2's all night and nothing, I'm coming up short.  I'm going back to wearing them on my head and listening to music. 
 
 

 

[rmilewsk]

I have tried the LCD2's with the WA22 and both the sophia princess (woo upgrade tube) and the EML 5U4. I think the Sophia Princess sounds slightly better than the EML. The SP sounds more open compared to the EML which sounds slightly more veiled to me. The EML sounds a bit reticent to me compared to the SP. I also have the woo upgraded power tubes (7236) and upgraded driver tubes (shaguang treasure).
 
That being said I will also say that I was not completely happy with the sound I was getting with any of these tube combinations and the LCD2's. Then I tried the violectric HPA V200. This is the best amp I have ever heard with the LCD2s. I've listened to the above WA22 and the burson HA160. The WA with any of the tube combinations sounds more liquid than the HPA especially in the midrange. However, the overall presentation of the music is much more coherent and the dynamics are just as good with the V200. There is a sense of movement and flow to the music through the HPA V200 that the other amplifiers can not match. The WA22 sounds broken to me compared to the V200. I don't mean broken as in a tube has a crack in it. I mean broken as in when listening to a song all of the parts don't sound like they are coming from the same performance. The midrange sounds too distinct from the bass and from the treble. The pieces are shown with a spotlight on them. The V200 plays the music as one organic whole.  I am still shocked at the price of the V200 compared to how good it sounds.
 

 

[Silent One]

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I have tried the LCD2's with the WA22 and both the sophia princess (woo upgrade tube) and the EML 5U4. I think the Sophia Princess sounds slightly better than the EML. The SP sounds more open compared to the EML which sounds slightly more veiled to me. The EML sounds a bit reticent to me compared to the SP. I also have the woo upgraded power tubes (7236) and upgraded driver tubes (shaguang treasure).
 
That being said I will also say that I was not completely happy with the sound I was getting with any of these tube combinations and the LCD2's. Then I tried the violectric HPA V200. This is the best amp I have ever heard with the LCD2s. I've listened to the above WA22 and the burson HA160. The WA with any of the tube combinations sounds more liquid than the HPA especially in the midrange. However, the overall presentation of the music is much more coherent and the dynamics are just as good with the V200. There is a sense of movement and flow to the music through the HPA V200 that the other amplifiers can not match. The WA22 sounds broken to me compared to the V200. I don't mean broken as in a tube has a crack in it. I mean broken as in when listening to a song all of the parts don't sound like they are coming from the same performance. The midrange sounds too distinct from the bass and from the treble. The pieces are shown with a spotlight on them. The V200 plays the music as one organic whole.  I am still shocked at the price of the V200 compared to how good it sounds.
 

Approximately how many hours were on the Sophia Princess and EML 5U4G at the time?

 

[Silent One]

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When you say listening fatigue, are you referring to physical comfort fatigue, or something to do with the sound? If it's to do with the sound signature most impressions I have read are the opposite, but if you are referring to physical comfort I know what you mean; that also agrees with the impressions I have read as well as my own experience. I am on my second LCD-2 because of physical comfort issues, and my second HD800 because of sound signature issues, both of which have been resolved.

The first session I had with the LCD-2's were a bit uneasy. Second night was one of adjustment but getting use to it. Third night was seamless - no longer remained an issue of comfort; could relax and enjoy the music...
 

 

[Golfnutz]

 
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Those are the keepers for my Woo as well

 
Interesting analogy, but really bad breath? Yech!
 

When you say listening fatigue, are you referring to physical comfort fatigue, or something to do with the sound? If it's to do with the sound signature most impressions I have read are the opposite, but if you are referring to physical comfort I know what you mean; that also agrees with the impressions I have read as well as my own experience. I am on my second LCD-2 because of physical comfort issues, and my second HD800 because of sound signature issues, both of which have been resolved.

At this point both.  I need to adjust to the extended bass frequencies and closer soundstage  - I'm just finding it a bit in your face at this point.  One thing I can say is that I like the vocal presentation on LCD-2 better.
 
 

 

[Golfnutz]

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Benn kissing my LCD-2's all night and nothing, I'm coming up short.  I'm going back to wearing them on my head and listening to music. 
 
 

Try putting some of the oil on your headphones that came with your purchase

   I just find them to be a touch overbearing at this point (compared to HD800). I'm sure they'll change with sufficient break-in. 
 
 

 

[Icenine2]

Isn't it getting close to new Woo amp release time?  And the DAC as well I believe.  Any word from anyone yet?

 

[Golfnutz]

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Isn't it getting close to new Woo amp release time?  And the DAC as well I believe.  Any word from anyone yet?

I noticed they're on the list of exhibitors at TAVES (Toronto Audio Video Entertainment Show), from September 30 - October 2 - http://www.taveshow.com/Visitors/exhibitors.html
 
Maybe they'll show or announce something then.
 
 

 

[jc9394]

Any Woo owners compared the Q cable with a silver cable with LCD-2? I have a Moon Audio Silver Dragon and wants to try the Q.

 

[strannik]

Wow, I don't recognize the names of any other exhibitors. That's a bit discouraging, since I can probably drop by the show relatively easily.
 
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I noticed they're on the list of exhibitors at TAVES (Toronto Audio Video Entertainment Show), from September 30 - October 2 - http://www.taveshow.com/Visitors/exhibitors.html
 
Maybe they'll show or announce something then.
 
 

 

 

[Golfnutz]

 
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Wow, I don't recognize the names of any other exhibitors. That's a bit discouraging, since I can probably drop by the show relatively easily.
 


 

Maybe for you. I recognize almost all of them. Mostly local audio stores, importers, and manufactures.
 
I'm sure you've heard of Anthem, Audio Note, Bryston, Kimber Cable, Nordost, Oracle, Paradigm, Totem, Woo Audio....
 

 

[Golfnutz]

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Any Woo owners compared the Q cable with a silver cable with LCD-2? I have a Moon Audio Silver Dragon and wants to try the Q.

I know Skylab has, as a matter of fact he has his Silver Dragon in the 'For Sale' section. Say's he's using the Q-Audio cable now.
 
Just checked the LCD-2 - Aftermarket Cable Forum, and Wedge also prefers the Q-Audio cable. I did a search on Silver Dragon and looked for references to Q-Audio.
 

 

[Yitaro]

Still in one piece Takezo.  Thanks for help and guidance.  Just finished with the caps replacement.  Just like you said, the instrument separation and transparency has improved.
 

 

[jc9394]

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Maybe for you. I recognize almost all of them. Mostly local audio stores, importers, and manufactures.
 
I'm sure you've heard of Anthem, Audio Note, Bryston, Kimber Cable, Nordost, Oracle, Paradigm, Totem, Woo Audio....
 

Same here and I wish I'm at GTA that week...


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I know Skylab has, as a matter of fact he has his Silver Dragon in the 'For Sale' section. Say's he's using the Q-Audio cable now.
 
Just checked the LCD-2 - Aftermarket Cable Forum, and Wedge also prefers the Q-Audio cable. I did a search on Silver Dragon and looked for references to Q-Audio.
 

I saw that too but not sure he is selling it because he does not like it with Woo or he prefer it with his vintage receiver.  I think Skylab use his LCD-2 mostly with his vintage receiver.
 

 

[WarriorAnt]

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I know Skylab has, as a matter of fact he has his Silver Dragon in the 'For Sale' section. Say's he's using the Q-Audio cable now.
 
Just checked the LCD-2 - Aftermarket Cable Forum, and Wedge also prefers the Q-Audio cable. I did a search on Silver Dragon and looked for references to Q-Audio.
 

I'm using the Q cable now also.  I posted an impression about it a few weeks ago.   Have not tried the silver dragon though.