Woo Audio Amp Owner Unite
Feb 19, 2013 at 12:41 AM Post #24,241 of 42,298
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Sometimes, I evaluate my rig's status and where I'd like to go and contemplate starting over. Complete with a loud...
 


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Feb 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM Post #24,244 of 42,298
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I managed to get twenty 2399 Chatham/Tung sol tubes (equals 5998 Tung Sol). 4 are already spoken for so 16 are left, if you're interested pm me for prices and info.
First come, first serve. I have a USA distributor as well to save on shipping costs.
 
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05 Tubes left!
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM Post #24,245 of 42,298
I managed to get twenty 2399 Chatham/Tung sol tubes (equals 5998 Tung Sol).
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10 Tubes left!


For any of our new woosies (newoosies?), this a very good price on a much coveted tube. At some point everyone wants to take these for a spin. It will take a bit of luck to find these from another reputable seller at anything like this price - there a number of people on ebay asking ridiculous amounts for these things. When I sent Jack Woo a question about tubes a long while back he replied "Tung Sol 5998 is one of the best you can find; however, it is a rare find."

Just don't want anyone to mistakenly miss out on this terrific opportunity that our fiery friend has arranged.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM Post #24,246 of 42,298
Hello everyone :)
 
 
This is my first post in this forum. I have been reading this thread for a long time and needless to say I was very impressed with Woo Audio amps. About 4 weeks ago and after tons of research, I went ahead and contacted Jack. I ended up ordering the WA3 which got delivered about 2 days ago (I live in the UK). I was so excited to receive the amp but to my huge disappointment, problems turned up as soon as I connected it (as a preamp to my power amplifier).
 
I basically get loud crackling / popping sounds coming from my speakers. This sound is intermittent but irregular (happens between intervals of 30 seconds to 2 minutes). The WA3 volume is at zero and the speakers still emit these sounds. It is worth noting that they are loud enough to be painful to my ears. I can play music and I can hear music just fine but the cracking / popping loud sounds are also there.

Some more information about how I connected the amplifier:
Sonos Connect > RCA interconnects > WA3 input
WA3 output > RCA interconnects > power amplifier inputs
I am using the Audioengine P4 speakers (banana plugs)

I made sure the valves were correctly placed and I waited about 5 minutes after switching on the WA3 before switching on the power amplifier.

I even tried using a different power tube just in case it was that causing a problem (I replaced it with a new 6080 I have). Unfortunately the loud noises were there.

 
As a last resort I tried disconnecting the amp from the source and the problem persisted. I even swapped the driver tubes and the problem is still there (intermittent crackle / popping from both speakers).
 
Strangely, there is no problem when I connect the headphones. They sound wonderful.
 
Needless to say I am very disappointed, especially after eagerly waiting for the WA3 for 4 weeks.
 
I am concluding that I have a faulty unit. Unless anyone has some other suggestion?
 
Many thanks
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 PM Post #24,247 of 42,298
Yianni,
 
Welcome to head fi.
 
You may have faulty tubes.
Do you have access to a tube tester?
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:11 PM Post #24,248 of 42,298

Hello rosgr63
 
Thank you very much for your response, I greatly appreciate it :). Unfortunately I don't have a tube tester so I would not be able to check.
I was able to rule out the power tube as I have a spare 6080 (new). I swapped the one supplied by Jack and the problem remained.
 
I get the loud noises from both speakers when using the WA3 as a pre amp connection while there is no problem when using headphones. I am no expert (far from it) but I am thinking that if the tubes were faulty, I would be getting the same problems when using the headphones?
 
Thanks
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM Post #24,249 of 42,298
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I managed to get twenty 2399 Chatham/Tung sol tubes (equals 5998 Tung Sol). 4 are already spoken for so 16 are left, if you're interested pm me for prices and info.
First come, first serve. I have a USA distributor as well to save on shipping costs.
 
U.

 
5 tubes left!
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM Post #24,250 of 42,298
My WA3 is also an extremely noisy amp.  It's just the nature of the WA3, if you ask me.  Lovely amp, but highly disappointing at times.
 
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Hello rosgr63
 
Thank you very much for your response, I greatly appreciate it :). Unfortunately I don't have a tube tester so I would not be able to check.
I was able to rule out the power tube as I have a spare 6080 (new). I swapped the one supplied by Jack and the problem remained.
 
I get the loud noises from both speakers when using the WA3 as a pre amp connection while there is no problem when using headphones. I am no expert (far from it) but I am thinking that if the tubes were faulty, I would be getting the same problems when using the headphones?
 
Thanks

 
Feb 19, 2013 at 2:34 PM Post #24,251 of 42,298
Hello hodgjy,
 
I could tolerate the humming as background noise... The problem I am experiencing is something else altogether though. More like sudden loud crackling and popping sounds that are quite uncomfortable to the ears. The music mutes momentarily when they occur...
 
I wish the problem was just background noise...
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM Post #24,253 of 42,298
Yianni,
 
You are most welcome.
 
To me the first thing before else is to make sure your tubes are OK.
 
Do you have a spare set of driver tubes?
 
It's true, if there was a tube problem the headphones would reveal it.
But crackling and popping is usually a tube related problem.
 
There's a few people in UK with nice AVO testers that could test your tubes.
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 7:54 PM Post #24,254 of 42,298
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There's a few people in UK with nice AVO testers that could test your tubes.

I own a few tubes that test OK on my tube tester but also crackle. Maybe the problem could also be dirty pins?
 
Feb 19, 2013 at 9:58 PM Post #24,255 of 42,298
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I am using a balanced source but I've not been able to come up with any information on whether the WA22 balanced outs make any difference. 

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It is my understanding that the W22 needs a balanced source for full performance but for the output it does not matter what you use since the same level power is available for single ended as well. I would think a re-cable may make more of a different in this situation.

 
John is correct, the output is officially the same SE and balanced. But there are still valid reasons to try a balanced headphone cable out of the WA22:
 
  1. Some headphones respond better to balanced cabling than others, ie an HD800 improves more than an HD600
  2. If the headphone has modular cable connections, it's worth a try for the improved ergonomics, customization, and arguably cool looks compared to many stock cables
  3. Personally I wouldn't bother if the headphone is hardwired but some have reported good results, again it depends on the headphone
  4. Balanced cable connections don't short-circuit like TRS connections do, so there's no real reason to turn the amp down when plugging/unplugging a balanced-cabled headphone (but I still do)
  1. Balanced audio cables are less noise-prone over long distance runs than SE cables; this is the original justification for their existence
 
 
 
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Nice!  A pleasant thought.  Happy Monday.

 
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Sometimes, I evaluate my rig's status and where I'd like to go and contemplate starting over. Complete with a loud...
 


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