The Fiio X5 Thread
Apr 16, 2014 at 9:04 PM Post #7,187 of 19,652
 
James assures us that the wheel is fine and I haven't had any problems with mine so I'm going to believe him! Also, have you tried FW 1.23beta yet? It improves the UI responsiveness and eliminates the "laggy" wheel issue.


Haven't upgraded to the beta firmware yet. I guess I'll do that sometime tonight. Very busy going back and forth with the DX90, which is also an excellent DAP. Thanks for the tip
 
Yeah I wish the wheel was more locked into place and felt more solid. It just feels like a toy that rattles, slips and slides. I heard complaints before but it's seriously kind of dissapointing. I see what people were talking about.
 
I just wanted to confirm with other X5 owners that that's how it's supposed to be, loose/rattled. As long as it's "normal" I'm cool with it.
 
Apr 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM Post #7,188 of 19,652
 
Haven't upgraded to the beta firmware yet. I guess I'll do that sometime tonight. Very busy going back and forth with the DX90, which is also an excellent DAP. Thanks for the tip
 
Yeah I wish the wheel was more locked into place and felt more solid. It just feels like a toy that rattles, slips and slides. I heard complaints before but it's seriously kind of dissapointing. I see what people were talking about.
 
I just wanted to confirm with other X5 owners that that's how it's supposed to be, loose/rattled. As long as it's "normal" I'm cool with it.

 
Yep, it's supposed to be that loose/rattled
 
Apr 16, 2014 at 9:37 PM Post #7,189 of 19,652
   
Yep, it's supposed to be that loose/rattled


Cool guys. Thanks for the confirmation. I'm good with it, as James said the wheel hasn't fallen off over 5,000 X5s. I can live with the wheel. The sound of the X5 makes it worth me getting used to the wheel. It's very nice upgrade from the X3.
 
Apr 16, 2014 at 10:48 PM Post #7,190 of 19,652
 
Cool guys. Thanks for the confirmation. I'm good with it, as James said the wheel hasn't fallen off over 5,000 X5s. I can live with the wheel. The sound of the X5 makes it worth me getting used to the wheel. It's very nice upgrade from the X3.

 
No prob mate, have fun with it!

PS: Actually, the wheel did fall off for one of the X5s, but that was... kind of an experiment :wink:
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 3:19 AM Post #7,192 of 19,652
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Damn! Now I want one. Can't read Korean, though. How do I get it?
Grrrrrrr..... I'd be pulling my hair out, if I had any
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Apr 17, 2014 at 4:10 AM Post #7,193 of 19,652
Oh wow I hadn't heard this... assuming they are all FLAC files that is only about one 128gb card or so (very rough calculation)


The limitation is on the media library database (for which right now a database file has to be stored on the X5's small internal memory). There's never been any limitation on folder browsing and the limitation on the database should be lifted in a later firmware update as I have confirmed with engineers that it should be possible to move the database file to mSD card(s) inserted in the X5. :)
 
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Apr 17, 2014 at 4:26 AM Post #7,194 of 19,652
  Hi Joe,
Sorry I have not replied up to now but, so help me, I've been trying to think of a way to do justice to the way I feel about your complement, calling my response a gem. Sometimes the right thing to say just refuses to manifest and that's just what happened. Anyway, thanks so much for that. It truly gives me a warm feeling of shared humanity. I hope that James has gotten the message and was happy to hear it b/c I meant what I say. Perusing the responses I have read from James on Head-fi, I felt inspired to compare him to JFK b/c both have stood out for their warmth and integrity. Enough said?

 
Thank you for your compliment, gives me a big challenge to stand up to your comparison (at least in audio world!)
 
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Apr 17, 2014 at 4:37 AM Post #7,196 of 19,652
  I would be interested in the software to do the permanent fix,  I only have a small library so I could  simple save a second copy.
 
Arcright

Foobar2000 (Windows) can scan for replaygain values and (once they're in the tags) apply them permanently to the audio data.
 
Don't know about anything for other operating systems.
 
(You'd want to apply Album Gain rather than Track Gain by the way, unless you are always just shuffling tracks and never listening to whole albums, in which case you probably still want Album Gain but there would at least be a case for Track Gain. Any loose tracks just use Track Gain)
 
edit: as an aside, I expect (perhaps optimistically) replaygain tags to be supported by the firmware within a few weeks so have no plans to apply gain to the copies I have on MicroSD cards, even though I normally use replaygain 100% of the time
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 4:50 AM Post #7,197 of 19,652
The limitation is on the media library database (for which right now a database file has to be stored on the X5's small internal memory). There's never been any limitation on folder browsing and the limitation on the database should be lifted in a later firmware update as I have confirmed with engineers that it should be possible to move the database file to mSD card(s) inserted in the X5.
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Joe, that's great news!  
 
Okay, I have to ask.  Is this something you've been working on from the start, or was it the result of my suggestion in these posts:
 
Here's a thought:
 
Internal memory limitations are responsible for the 5800 track restriction.  Why not keep track indices for each SD card on the card itself?  That what eliminate the necessity of scanning each card whenever one is changed (after the initial scan, of course).
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-thread-info-updated-on-jan-17th-2014/6510#post_10441700
 
I'd also note that moving the index to the SD card adds another benefit: it would be unnecessary to scan the card each time it was changed.  What first drew my attention to the X5 was its vast storage capability -- assuming Sandisk starts shipping 128 Gb cards again, the X5 can support a 1/4 terabyte library off-the-shelf.  Support for OTG makes possible carrying a music library of virtually unlimited size.  Though the FAT32 work around you've suggested would work for shuffle play, it would also preclude virtually all search capability by album, artist, genre, etc.
 
If, as you seem to suggest, the primary downside of moving the index to the SD card is slower song browsing on a song-by-song basis, I think it would be in the interest of the vast majority of X5 purchasers to accept that compromise in exchange for the considerably enhanced functionality of comprehensive and complete tag search and shuffle play.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/661411/fiio-x5-thread-info-updated-on-jan-17th-2014/6660#post_1044550
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 5:01 AM Post #7,198 of 19,652
I'm debating between ordering an X5 or a DX90 (I already have an X3). Is it possible to shuffle all song from both SD cards in the X5? And does it handle proper tagging of music - one of the small niggles with the X3 is that It doesn't display the song name etc on the playing screen, is the x5 the same?
 
Apr 17, 2014 at 5:29 AM Post #7,200 of 19,652
  Foobar2000 (Windows) can scan for replaygain values and (once they're in the tags) apply them permanently to the audio data.
 
Don't know about anything for other operating systems.
 
(You'd want to apply Album Gain rather than Track Gain by the way, unless you are always just shuffling tracks and never listening to whole albums, in which case you probably still want Album Gain but there would at least be a case for Track Gain. Any loose tracks just use Track Gain)
 
edit: as an aside, I expect (perhaps optimistically) replaygain tags to be supported by the firmware within a few weeks so have no plans to apply gain to the copies I have on MicroSD cards, even though I normally use replaygain 100% of the time

 
Within foobar, you can also reprocess the files after scanning and applying the ReplayGain metadata to the files. (i.e. Scan for ReplayGain values => Convert => Advanced => Processing => ReplayGain Options)
 
Alternatively you can use MP3Gain (both Windows and Mac have it); only caveat is that you have to use MP3s and that it will also permanently alter the audio data.
 

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