Joe Bloggs
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I... sell shoes?
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After the EQ argument in the MMM vs LCD-3 thread, I traded pm's with kiteki. I told kiteki to try my EQ method (like he already said he would). kiteki told me to try some real phones. So I did.
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Now all I need to complete my pants-on-head clown image among head-fiers is to polish that up into a full blown shootout writeup between the four phones and post it in a new thread outside. ("outside", coz this here is the loonie asylum or something
) I've already decided on the title:
"Philips on Mount Akina: SHE3580 A-spec vs UM3X vs XBA-3 vs IE80 vs FXD80"
...because I felt like Takumi driving the wheels off his beater AE86 to beat every single supercar that dared challenge him on Mount Akina...
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I may have PAID somebody to draw this for me, yup I really am pants-on-head dumb![]()
See, I've been recruiting Chinese artists to draw for Eden of Xeno (EOX). I do this as a favor for their CEO, since I got to know her from working on the Hanabira translation and she is going to pay me (a bit) for some manga I'm editing in Chinese for her. So I got to know this artist, who seems to make a living drawing stuff for people to pass off as their own online (and have people go gaga over their l33t drawing skillz) and I brokered a drawing deal between him and EOX. After I did v.1 of my pantsu Mai (which was just the picture of the head-fi wedgy photochopped onto her head) I got the idea to ask him to draw it for me. He said he'd do it for free as a favor, but with the amount of modification this went through I ended up asking the CEO to mail the artist an extra $100RMB for this. I told her I'd pay her back. I think she won't ask me to actually pay her, since she owes me favours for doing this recruitment stuff on my own time, but I'm not counting on it![]()
Dammit man, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING?
I... sell shoes?

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After the EQ argument in the MMM vs LCD-3 thread, I traded pm's with kiteki. I told kiteki to try my EQ method (like he already said he would). kiteki told me to try some real phones. So I did.
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Per your suggestion, I went to Mongkok and demoed the best IEMs I could get my hands on.
I said before in ljokerl's IEM thread that tuning an IEM in detail with a parametric EQ is like no-holds-barred total racing spec modification for a car, even something like a Toyota Supra, in racing trim, can beat a stock supercar. That turned out to be the whole truth from what I heard today.
SHE3580 A-spec (standing for the A-shaped EQ curve, and also for full-on racing tuning) went up against
Westone UM3X
Sony XBA-3
Senn IE80
JVC FXD80
And none of them except the XBA-3 got even close without the help of the 10-band EQ on Poweramp.
I played pre-EQed tracks on the SHE3580 and the unaltered tracks I just re-loaded on my phone on the challengers.
Main tracks tested were
Hotel California (from Hell Freezes Over album)
Re-Sublimity (OP to Kannazuki No Miko)
The UM3X and IE80 sounded similar: bloated bass, muffled highs. I would even put the stock SHE3580 above them. (but below the FXD80 and XBA-3)
FXD80 sounded ok, except they had amazingly boosted high highs. Not at sibilance frequency but still, they sound good for about a minute and then it's time to either dial in EQ or take the phones off or claw your ears off.
The XBA-3 was the best of the bunch for me. It gets the balance about right, and with a boost to 1kHz and 2kHz on the equalizer the timbre is also about right. Without that boost vocals sound off. Still can't compare to the SHE3580 A-spec in smoothness in the highs.
I tried to pay attention to the imaging like you said, but couldn't find anything special in them. I demoed the IE80 because DustDevil told me those are supposed to have a reputation for great imaging, well I didn't hear anything like that. If anything thanks to the instruments sounding more realistic to me on the SHE3580 A-spec, they at least gain a more realistic presence in my headstage. None of the phones gave me convincing out-of-head imaging. The XBA-3 imaging was a bit different from the rest in that the opening guitar plucks off to one side in Hell Freezes Over sounded like they came from *right next to my ear* with the XBA-3, unlike with any of the other phones. I don't consider that a merit though, and for the rest of the piece it doesn't image particularly differently, except it images a bit better than the other challengers because it has the most realistic timbre among them.
Now all I need to complete my pants-on-head clown image among head-fiers is to polish that up into a full blown shootout writeup between the four phones and post it in a new thread outside. ("outside", coz this here is the loonie asylum or something

"Philips on Mount Akina: SHE3580 A-spec vs UM3X vs XBA-3 vs IE80 vs FXD80"
...because I felt like Takumi driving the wheels off his beater AE86 to beat every single supercar that dared challenge him on Mount Akina...

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