[Fat Larry]

They're big on gifts as well. Last time i bought something from Penon they tossed in a bunch of 5mm grills and some BQYZ (dunno how many letters that brand really uses) bullet iems which i gave to a friend.

 

[o0genesis0o]

It’s good that they are reliable retailers.

 

[Fat Larry]

Yea that would be interesting a 12BA MM going for 14BA SR8. Need some MM owner feeling lucky to pay 15% of $4,999 MM cost for $749 to find out.

For those rich sir, I think 15% of MM is almost a piece of cake.

Ah just noticed that thing has bone conduction drivers. So that would add extra layer of imaging. I believe from MEST MKII experience MM will perform better.


These days the Bigger brand Chinese companies pricing is getting ridiculous, this needs to stop.

Even UE Premier with 21BA offers it for $2,999 which actually making sense when looking at crazy high ballers.

How is the bass on the SR8?

 

[Sebatian99]

$1 Reservation Card for BLON x HBB Z300 appeared on Linsoul. Price 30$ with card on April 24th, 2023.
Normal price 35$

 

[PhonoPhi]

$1 Reservation Card for BLON x HBB Z300 appeared on Linsoul. Price 30$ with card on April 24th, 2023.
Normal price 35$

That is one heck of the "bad" "oppoty" (and not touching with a pole).

 

[Carpet]

$1 Reservation Card for BLON x HBB Z300 appeared on Linsoul. Price 30$ with card on April 24th, 2023.
Normal price 35$

Ooo, both versions look pretty! TFZ connector and full metal shell. Color me interested.

 

[Redcarmoose]

Any similarly performing cable for the Legato that is not so full of bling? I tried several times, and my finger refuses to click on the "add to cart" button...

I will keep searching? I mean the Penon Mix is more money than the 7Hz Legato, the ISN SC4 maybe? I mean the day today started with the Penon Mix 3-in-1 then to the ISN SC4 then to the Penon Vocal. And the original cable was tried a few times except the included is 3.5mm which 4.4mm is noticeable as far as the 7Hz Legato liking power. I know the looks of the Penon Vocal are very different? I will try a few other cables tomorrow, but so far Penon Vocal simply kills it. Remember too it’s wide bore silicone ear-tips and the Sony 1A together which make the natural bass slightly subdued. The Sony 1Z was what I started with and that was a no go....just too bass heavy! But anyone who has the Legato may like instrumental EDM, as that’s special with the Legato. Though later I tried some male vocals and rock/metal and they were Good, though not really as great as with instrumental EDM! Cheers!

 

[Descoberto]

Ooo, both versions look pretty! TFZ connector and full metal shell. Color me interested.

Do you think that the golden version can influence positively?

 

[Kenyon]

To help everyone understand what they 7Hz has done to the Legato is they maximized room response. Such a phenomena arrives by speakers in a room having sound waves which bounce around inside of the cabinet then fire into the back wall and sidewalls, thus reflecting back and competing with the forward firing frequency response. This term room response has been tested and documented as there is no argument as to its existence. The next thing they did was give a rise to the 6.5Khz to balance and pull-off such a heavy tune. 6kHz to 8kHz is the (anti) sibilance region (at times higher) which due to the nature of the 2nd 6mm tweeter/midrange driver all is well. The 12mm bass driver is nice, though due to the ramifications of delivering such bass response, we arrive with fallout. Such artifacts are found in slowness and lack of timbre. Still for the money these do many things right and are wildly entertaining. Matching them to a more mid centric DAP and a bright cable (Silver/Copper) seemed to be a way out of the fog adding pace and visibility. The end-all is a style of slide and roll which makes up the definitive description of held 7Hz Legato pace.

The description of room response was also the big change for Sony going from a more linear neutral Sony R-10, to an actual room response generator, the 2014 Sony MRD-Z7!

A complete Redcarmoose Review in a day or so?
https://www.linsoul.com/collections/featured-home/products/7hz-legato

Apologies if I am reading this wrong but do you happen to know how they may have accounted for ‘room’ resonances & response in an IEM - especially something without any microphones to measure individual listener ear topography and how that affects FR?

Is this more akin to internal shell volume/shape as well as their material density as an acoustic chamber being measured or compensated for?

 

[dharmasteve]

I will keep searching? I mean the Penon Mix is more money than the 7Hz Legato, the ISN SC4 maybe? I mean the day today started with the Penon Mix 3-in-1 then to the ISN SC4 then to the Penon Vocal. And the original cable was tried a few times except the included is 3.5mm which 4.4mm is noticeable as far as the 7Hz Legato liking power. I know the looks of the Penon Vocal are very different? I will try a few other cables tomorrow, but so far Penon Vocal simply kills it. Remember too it’s wide bore silicone ear-tips and the Sony 1A together which make the natural bass slightly subdued. The Sony 1Z was what I started with and that was a no go....just too bass heavy! But anyone who has the Legato may like instrumental EDM, as that’s special with the Legato. Though later I tried some male vocals and rock/metal and they were Good, though not really as great as with instrumental EDM! Cheers!

I've ordered the Penon Vocal. I was going to give it a go with the Penon Serial, but looks like now it may well suit my 7HZ Legato. Lucky I won't have to wear it outside. A certainty for a mugging.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

How is the bass on the SR8?

Best sales point of SR8 is bass and lower mid, Sonion 38 (4BA) + Knowles30265 (4BA) totaling 8BA per side supporting those range, 4 way cross over with 4 sound tubes. So those two lower end has 2 tubes 8BA in rendering

I always though “ah Bass is good for a BA” type follow up, and finally satisfied with BA bass performance.

 

[Redcarmoose]

I just got done reading only a few days of this thread and it was like 20 pages. I noticed you posted a few pages back about the arrival of the Penon Serial, congratulations!

I hope you realize that Serial needs at least 160 hours of burn-in! It will actually change from 100 hours to 160 hours! Then it will coalesce into a unified playback! Another great cable for the Serial is the Penon Space! Totally the opposite from the Vocal, but a perfect example of how wide of pleasing range the Serial has to offer. Where some even go so bright as the Mix? But the Vocal is fun and endlessly proving itself on the tarmac! The Space is way way big in soundstage and slightly warm, but detailed!

I've ordered the Penon Vocal. I was going to give it a go with the Penon Serial, but looks like now it may well suit my 7HZ Legato. Lucky I won't have to wear it outside. A certainty for a mugging.

Ya, it’s funny how you kind-of start to overlook the bling, and focus on just what it does. I mean I think it was better (with the Legato) than the Mix at half the price as well as the ISN SC4 that’s almost $100?

But report back on your cable success or PM me when you get the Vocal, after you have tried it!

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Is anyone selling these besides Penon? I might grab one one day.

Aliexpress with limited expectations for product warranty support

I recently followed by hifigo’s co-founder and general manager on twitter, maybe I can send a DM to convince them SoundRhyme is worth their investment

If you own u12t, a treble specialist, SR8 will be very good IEM that is almost counterpart of that, rich bass range with natural treble.

 

[Redcarmoose]

The 2 kHz to 5 kHz is the Pinna flange region. There is no specific amount of kHz which determines it’s center. Meaning you could in fact call it 3 kHz to 4 kHz, but it is the area of sound waves which are amplified by the tissue of the exterior ear. That is why IEMs have it and full-size don’t. Because you are accessing the Pinna gain with full-size use. The reason I chose to use it to describe the Vocal Cable is because this area of hearing is specifically designed around the human voice. And in particular the female voice.

Such is the protective mechanism when a bear came into the cave and your prehistoric Mom yelled out. Or more relaxed your Mom called you for dinner. We were literally designed to communicate with our ears....and the Vocal frequency is the Pinna Gain area. In fact with-in that area typically we notice even 1/4 dB to 1/2 dB changes!

But yes, you can call it ear-gain, means the same.

 

[baskingshark]

The Hidizs MS5 is a tunable 4BA + 1DD hybrid, retailing at $300ish USD.

Here are some quick impressions, with photos and graphs:

The DD is a Custom Liquid Silicone DD, whereas the BAs are 4 Sonions. Usually Sonion containing gear would be way more expensive than this. The housings remind me of a bicycle helmet haha.


Graph via IEC 711 coupler, 8 kHz is a coupler artefact.

It has 3 screw-on tuning nozzles to vary the signature subtly. The red and gold nozzle are quite similar in tonality, but the silver one is definitely a treble-headed signature. The 3 nozzles give a variant of a bright U-shaped signature.

In terms of sonics, this set is quite technical, scores well against other $300ish hybrids, other than an average soundstage depth/height.

It has a 5.3ohm impedance, so based on the rules of eights, this set is best paired with sources with a 0.66ohm output impedance or less.

Will do more listening and comparisons and report back with a final update.