The discovery thread!

[Vonbuddy]

Has anyone found another site where you can get Juzee T41 iems other than AliExpress?

 

[FastGecko5]

Would warm up more clinical iems and headphones?

You could try putting them in the microwave? Would probably change the sound more than a cable! Can't guarantee it would be for the better though.

 

[Vonbuddy]

You could try putting them in the microwave? Would probably change the sound more than a cable! Can't guarantee it would be for the better though.

I have never heard that before.

 

[FastGecko5]

I have never heard that before.

I was being sarcastic, don't microwave your headphones. This'll probably get me crucified but cables should be acoustically transparent. If your cable is changing the sound of your headphones in some way due to resistance or capacitance then it's a crap cable.

My point is don't expect an expensive cable making ridiculous claims to drastically "warm up" clinical sounding headphones. Sure, buy them because they're pretty and sometimes more ergonomic, but you're better suited using EQ (free), changing tips/earpads (fairly cheap), getting different transducers (probably most expensive), or trying a different type of source (like tubes for instance)(potentially expensive).

There I said it. Please don't pounce on me, cable believers.

 

[552609]

I just grabbed the KZ ZEX Pro and the KZ ZAX - mostly out of curiosity. I can't believe the sound coming out of the ZEX for only $40 (https://amzn.to/3NOEJIU). The ZAX is good too, but more of a traditional sound and $20 more (https://amzn.to/3PwubiT). https://wolfhawk.squig.link/?share=KZ_ZAX,KZ_ZEX_Pro They measure pretty closely until 2k Hz though. ALways a good reminder that there is some crazy good stuff under $100, though I'm sure the build quality/long-term longevity isn't very good ('cause KZ) and the cable/accessories are pretty bad compared to what Truthear puts out. The stock cable is pretty uncomfortable and I'm using an aftermarket with both - also using the W1 tips. Still, for $40, the ZEX sounds much more expensive!

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Isn't the VX widely considered to be one of the most resolving IEMs in the market? I don't think anyone is going to argue that any single DD IEM is on par with the VX in terms of resolving ability, much less outresolve.

I see the statement IE600 is more resolving than SR8 (14BA) which I disagree.

SR8 is as resolving as more popular model Anole VX, so for a better reference I pulled VX into that

 

[AmericanSpirit]

@Dsnuts I got a problem with these FW3. The soundstage and imaging are really addicting, and when I go back to my wired IEM's, they feel much less expansive. Now I do notice the overall SQ isn't as sharp as wired, but the spatial qualities are better than most of my top tier stuff. It's like surround sound?

FW3 that good?

Hmmm!

 

[AmericanSpirit]

I just grabbed the KZ ZEX Pro and the KZ ZAX - mostly out of curiosity. I can't believe the sound coming out of the ZEX for only $40 (https://amzn.to/3NOEJIU). The ZAX is good too, but more of a traditional sound and $20 more (https://amzn.to/3PwubiT). https://wolfhawk.squig.link/?share=KZ_ZAX,KZ_ZEX_Pro They measure pretty closely until 2k Hz though. ALways a good reminder that there is some crazy good stuff under $100, though I'm sure the build quality/long-term longevity isn't very good ('cause KZ) and the cable/accessories are pretty bad compared to what Truthear puts out. The stock cable is pretty uncomfortable and I'm using an aftermarket with both - also using the W1 tips. Still, for $40, the ZEX sounds much more expensive!

If you find KZ’s sub$50 MST driver equipped one quite amazing, I’d recommend ZES (the latest MST+DD), it’s very nicely implemented of KZ MST

Also AS24 is the lastest release from KZ which I find pretty high performing for $79 (if you ordered AS24 on day1 from kz official web, it came with a free PR2v2 which worth like $30-40)

 

[jazzzy]

Penon has a good reputation for their customer service. Maybe reach out to them and voice your concern that you were sent their standard “freebie“ set, as your 10th Anniversary promotional gift.

had, just check Penon thread where I highlighted that their website got hacked and leaked CC data later used for unauthorized purchases

if they have good reputation then whole situation and their reaction would have been different

to this day I didn't get any email saying they fixed the issue nor they sign their email with a name


I don't doubt they did a lot of good for buyers in the past but public relations and site security is their weak point

 

[552609]

If you find KZ’s sub$50 MST driver equipped one quite amazing, I’d recommend ZES (the latest MST+DD), it’s very nicely implemented of KZ MST

Also AS24 is the lastest release from KZ which I find pretty high performing for $79 (if you ordered AS24 on day1 from kz official web, it came with a free PR2v2 which worth like $30-40)

Yeah, I missed that deal. It would have been cool to try those as well. The tribrid ZEX is pretty cool tech as well for that price. I'll check out the ZES - all of these are a lot cheaper than the stuff I was reviewing a few months ago, though I do have an Aur Aurora on order. Looks like the ZES is missing the BA the ZEX has though, cool looking though!

had, just check Penon thread where I highlighted that their website got hacked and leaked CC data later used for unauthorized purchases

if they have good reputation then whole situation and their reaction would have been different

to this day I didn't get any email saying they fixed the issue nor they sign their email with a name


I don't doubt they did a lot of good for buyers in the past but public relations and site security is their weak point

I did not enjoy my experience with Penon, but at least they did cancel my order and refund me. Still have a bad taste in my mouth though that prevents me from ordering from them. That, and I hate their website design - hurts my brain.

 

[AmericanSpirit]

Yeah, I missed that deal. It would have been cool to try those as well. The tribrid ZEX is pretty cool tech as well for that price. I'll check out the ZES - all of these are a lot cheaper than the stuff I was reviewing a few months ago, though I do have an Aur Aurora on order. Looks like the ZES is missing the BA the ZEX has though, cool looking though!

I did not enjoy my experience with Penon, but at least they did cancel my order and refund me. Still have a bad taste in my mouth though that prevents me from ordering from them. That, and I hate their website design - hurts my brain.

Aurora =
A proof of Abel’s gifted tuning ability.

 

[helloh3adfi]

FW3 that good?

Hmmm!

They're probably too heavy for my ears.

 

[lgcubana]

Gotta give AliExpress some credit. From the recent Summer Sale, 7 of my 8 orders arrived today, 14 days after the first order.

In prior sales (including the last 11.11) I've gotten the impression that vendors were stockpiling customer orders, to then make their orders from AliBaBa or local manufacturers, near the end of the sale period.

Order 8 took only 11 days

 

[emdeevee]

I did not enjoy my experience with Penon, but at least they did cancel my order and refund me. Still have a bad taste in my mouth though that prevents me from ordering from them. That, and I hate their website design - hurts my brain.

While I can't argue on the site design, I can hurt for you, bro, not getting the 10th AE - it's magical.

 

[emdeevee]

I was being sarcastic, don't microwave your headphones. This'll probably get me crucified but cables should be acoustically transparent. If your cable is changing the sound of your headphones in some way due to resistance or capacitance then it's a crap cable.

My point is don't expect an expensive cable making ridiculous claims to drastically "warm up" clinical sounding headphones. Sure, buy them because they're pretty and sometimes more ergonomic, but you're better suited using EQ (free), changing tips/earpads (fairly cheap), getting different transducers (probably most expensive), or trying a different type of source (like tubes for instance)(potentially expensive).

There I said it. Please don't pounce on me, cable believers.

Pounce!!!

OK, I will only argue this "pretty" "ergonomic"... it seems so many very expensive ones are neither.