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Jun 14, 2023 at 4:59 PM Post #80,986 of 102,918
>>>>Higher output impedance (4.7 Ohm for >>>>3.5mm // 6.6 Ohm for 4.4mm)
Exactly, I wouldn't touch that DAC/AMP with a stick. Still respect for Shanling for putting the output impedance in the specs. Many other Amp "manufacturer" don't even know what is that. No wonder that some people are hearing differences between amps and dacs. The difference is there, because the "engineers" can't even design a proper one.
 
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Jun 14, 2023 at 5:09 PM Post #80,988 of 102,918
The Summer Sale is failing to get me excited about anything. The damn Raptgo Bridge is so awesome that it’s obscuring my view of everything else. It’s amazing that there was/is no hype around this set.

Exactly.. I cannot understand.
I think it's the best discovery and purchase I've made in recent months.
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 5:11 PM Post #80,989 of 102,918
Exactly, I wouldn't touch that DAC/AMP with a stick. Still respect for Shanling for putting the output impedance in the specs. Many other Amp "manufacturer" don't even know what is that. No wonder that some people are hearing differences between amps and dacs. The difference is there, because the "engineers" can't even design a proper one.

There must be something underneath.
Any logic related to impedance matching??
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 5:14 PM Post #80,990 of 102,918
The impedance matching is normally related to the output power, not the impedance. Fortunately is not so hard to measure output impedance and almost everyone with multimeter can do it for his sources.
 
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Jun 14, 2023 at 5:25 PM Post #80,991 of 102,918
I have the M3 Ultra DAP from Shanling, while I feel it does the job quite well, it lack something that my desktop system provides, a sense of wider and cleaner presentation.
Do you feel like the WA-EX that you have would make a major differnece vs an entry level DAP?

I don't want to raise unnecessary hype and expectations.

In any case, I have always thought that in the audio chain, the master role is played by the final transducers (speakers, headphones, IEMs) and the source audio.

Everything in between has its place, but it's marginal to the two points above.

However I must say that in this case I am at least perplexed.

And I tried different DACs (also shanling), no TOTL, but decent.

To answer your question, I tell you that the differences you might hear depend a lot on the music you listen to and the IEM you are using.

At the moment I'm using S12-PROs (therefore quite brilliant) and listening to male and female voices from DSD source.

And, yes, I feel a strong difference.

Probably if I listened to LEGATO and DANCE music, I wouldn't hear much difference.

But my ear is not very refined, others would probably hear the differences even in that case.
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 5:32 PM Post #80,992 of 102,918
The impedance matching is normally related to the output power, not the impedance. Fortunately is not so hard to measure output impedance and almost everyone with multimeter can do it for his sources.

I was thinking about the influence that impedance adapters (that fit between DAC and IEM on purpose) have on the frequency response.

Well, I thought, perhaps the choice of having such a high output impedance has something to do with this matter?
 
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Jun 14, 2023 at 6:01 PM Post #80,993 of 102,918
Speaking of NiceHCK, they are having 2 mystery bag thingies going on now for the Aliexpress sale:

1) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005705342954.html

$39.99 USD - lucky bag 1

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2) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005705392901.html

$79.99 USD - Lucky bag 2

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Any folks wanna guess what they contain?


Thanks to Rafał Bielecki from Facebook for the headsup.
My guess for, Lucky Bag 2
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Jun 14, 2023 at 7:00 PM Post #80,994 of 102,918
Noooo right after I placed order for RU6😭😭

Oh, but it’s AKM4493SEQ x2, I probably won’t need it…

That Shanling H5 is so adorable. It’s like someone steps on the H7 and compresses it. I guess it’s a lower grade version of M6U without the Android part.
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 8:26 PM Post #80,995 of 102,918
That Shanling H5 is so adorable. It’s like someone steps on the H7 and compresses it. I guess it’s a lower grade version of M6U without the Android part.
If it was quad AK4493, I might had to pull some budget from my Japan trip scheduled later this year🙀🙀 Good Shanling didn’t do that.
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 8:45 PM Post #80,996 of 102,918
Tanchijim on chinese SNS said they will release KARA during 6/15-18 globally. 1080CNY=150USD.

Customers purchased KARA during that period will have a freebie of Asano Tanchi LegoBlock.
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Anyway, if international price is 150USD, with those AE summer sale coupons…💸💸💸

Wait…did I say “I’m out of this IEM game” earlier this afternoon?😭😭😭😭
 
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Jun 14, 2023 at 9:01 PM Post #80,997 of 102,918
Tanchijim on chinese SNS said they will release KARA during 6/15-18 globally. 1080CNY=150USD.

Customers purchased KARA during that period will have a freebie of Asano Tanchi LegoBlock.
IMG_8432.png

Anyway, if international price is 150USD, with those AE summer sale coupons…💸💸💸

Wait…did I say “I’m out of this IEM game” earlier this afternoon?😭😭😭😭

That was a taboo words to say here.

I said "I stopped chasing the mythical dragons" but buying another rabbits is different thing 😋
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 9:20 PM Post #80,998 of 102,918
Tanchijim on chinese SNS said they will release KARA during 6/15-18 globally. 1080CNY=150USD.

Customers purchased KARA during that period will have a freebie of Asano Tanchi LegoBlock.
IMG_8432.png

Anyway, if international price is 150USD, with those AE summer sale coupons…💸💸💸

Wait…did I say “I’m out of this IEM game” earlier this afternoon?😭😭😭😭

Haha i just saw that yesterday on taobao, i thought it look kinda silly compare to waifu stand. Then they gonna release it on 17? 150$?? With AE summer coupons??? Can't wait to buy it right away
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 9:40 PM Post #80,999 of 102,918
Tanchijim on chinese SNS said they will release KARA during 6/15-18 globally. 1080CNY=150USD.

Customers purchased KARA during that period will have a freebie of Asano Tanchi LegoBlock.
IMG_8432.png

Anyway, if international price is 150USD, with those AE summer sale coupons…💸💸💸

Wait…did I say “I’m out of this IEM game” earlier this afternoon?😭😭😭😭
Thats quite nice,
At least its not just another printed image sandwiched between acrilic
 
Jun 14, 2023 at 10:24 PM Post #81,000 of 102,918
No wonder Aurora is somehow a step above SR7 and P8 in terms of pricing.

The linear phasing is TOTL flagship class, or maybe even better than many TOTLs out there.

Haute Couture‘s core strength, handcrafted and carefully tested craftsmanships.

For me

Neon Pro is

百花繚乱 Hyakka Ryoran ”profusions of flowers”

百花 Hyakka= hundreds of Flowers
繚乱 Ryoran = Profusely Blooming

and

Aurora is
花鳥風月 Kachou Fuugetsu “the beauties of natures”

花 = Flowers
鳥 = Birds
風 = Winds
月= Moon

Excellent channel matching btw! (Forgive the bass roll off, my MBP headphone jack seems to be rolling off in the subbass for everything I measure and my Apple dongle is busted for now):
 
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