Jan 21, 2023 at 7:39 PM Post #71,371 of 151,279
The yawn comes off incredibly condescending to me. The intent of my point is to advocate for more variety in the budget/beater bracket, now that companies are serious about tuning at a low price.

My point was not about being dismissive. If someone can/wants to only spend $50, that’s not some character flaw and they shouldn’t be low-key insulted for that.
The yawn comes from my boredom with this price bracket. You can buy whatever you want at any price bracket. What I do pick up is that you are a very sensitive commentor who likes to play "white knight" with companies. Quite often. I'm not attacking you whatsoever for your budget bracket choices. The YAWN was for my own boredom with the budget pokemon released weekly and daily.
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 7:58 PM Post #71,372 of 151,279
The yawn comes from my boredom with this price bracket. You can buy whatever you want at any price bracket. What I do pick up is that you are a very sensitive commentor who likes to play "white knight" with companies. Quite often. I'm not attacking you whatsoever for your budget bracket choices. The YAWN was for my own boredom with the budget pokemon released weekly and daily.
That sure is going out of your way to miss my point. I am also very bored with the state of where the budget market is at, and I'm advocating for companies trying to be less safe. It's not about defending any company at all. You may not think it's important to advocate in this budget area because you're over it and don't want/need to buy from it anymore and that's absolutely valid. I don't want to buy the fifth (or tenth) Harman-neutral clone either. But I would love for a company to be bold enough to release a diffuse-field style tuning (and whether anyone else enjoys KBear Storm or not, I do enjoy it for that). I would love to see someone pull a warmer-neutral tuning like the Dark Magician or Fan 2 further down into the budget range, which is why I'm trying out the Simgot EA500 (which while not in the $20 budget mark is not really something you see in this range either). Considering how seriously companies took finding and exploiting a tuning that did work this past year, I don't see why they can't do that again in a less played-out target. If you somehow get "white knight" from that, you do you.
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 8:12 PM Post #71,374 of 151,279
That sure is going out of your way to miss my point. I am also very bored with the state of where the budget market is at, and I'm advocating for companies trying to be less safe. It's not about defending any company at all. You may not think it's important to advocate in this budget area because you're over it and don't want/need to buy from it anymore and that's absolutely valid. I don't want to buy the fifth (or tenth) Harman-neutral clone either. But I would love for a company to be bold enough to release a diffuse-field style tuning (and whether anyone else enjoys KBear Storm or not, I do enjoy it for that). I would love to see someone pull a warmer-neutral tuning like the Dark Magician or Fan 2 further down into the budget range, which is why I'm trying out the Simgot EA500 (which while not in the $20 budget mark is not really something you see in this range either). Considering how seriously companies took finding and exploiting a tuning that did work this past year, I don't see why they can't do that again in a less played-out target. If you somehow get "white knight" from that, you do you.
I feel where your coming from, interested in hearing your impressions of the Simgot.
I asked for a sample to test but nope no YT chanel 😭 but I do like the fact it's trying to make a way less expensive DM.

KBEAR Rosefinch for sale:. - Just messing with you LOL!

No really I do.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1672625816502129/?mibextid=dXMIcH
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 8:55 PM Post #71,375 of 151,279
Haha by buying that terrible IEM.
Not sure it is terrible. I have it and it has been previously discussed on this thread. Links below. It is the 2020 version that was previously discussed. The new version from last year's production is an updated design. Its sensitivity has increased from 101 db to 110 db and its treble peak at 2.2 k is now higher than the 4.2 k peak ( as shown on AliE graph). Treble dominated around 4k in earlier version.

I haven't heard the 2022 version but in the 2020 version, I thought the crossover had been done well and that bass was well-defined and better than other IEMs at the price. As Tzennn said, the treble is relaxed and laid back. I actually felt that it needed a BA to cover the treble better, but that's my taste, The DDs are LCP.

This review is on a new startup company I discovered on Taobao!
…Can this be the beginning of the budget take over?

Introducing Bamboo Forest Bird, ridiculous price for such Hi-Definition sound!
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-discovery-thread.586909/post-16500889

Enjoy! :writing_hand::yum:

i have the Jinghong (Amazing if you will), i think my version is 2020.
it have peak around 2,2khz, 5khz, 8khz, not a harman iem as my first impression would be. it have a really good mid however, bass bleed to mid + early pinna make it quite foward in vocals and intimate soundstage, treble is too relax and laid back. Yeah not a bad iem, just not worth your money At the moment!
I think with some EQ, it will sound nice and it's driver is really capable
Also it don't sound like this, at all
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Jan 21, 2023 at 9:03 PM Post #71,376 of 151,279
Not sure it is terrible. I have it and it has been previously discussed on this thread. Links below. It is the 2020 version that was previously discussed. The new version from last year's production is an updated design. Its sensitivity has increased from 101 db to 110 db and its treble peak at 2.2 k is now higher than the 4.2 k peak ( as shown on AliE graph). Treble dominated around 4k in earlier version.

I haven't heard the 2022 version but in the 2020 version, I thought the crossover had been done well and that bass was well-defined and better than other IEMs at the price. As Tzennn said, the treble is relaxed and laid back. I actually felt that it needed a BA to cover the treble better, but that's my taste, The DDs are LCP.

Looks like a wide diffusion style tuning🤔

The old 2020’s shell looks nice👀
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 9:07 PM Post #71,377 of 151,279
Looking for a slight V-shaped signature in an affordable yet qualitative package? Even if the QoA Vesper are not « fresh news », this 1DD/1BA setup offers a warmish signature with the right amount of impact in the lower register and does not tickle your ears too much in the upper-mids region. It’s an USD 60ish set, but very well executed (special mention to the tight 2pin connectors). 40 hours of burn-in for the DD will do. Getting a good seal with appropriate tips is key and the stock cable does its job, even if an extra investment for a SPC or silver cable will enhance the experience. I repeat though, the stock cable is fine.

You can get the Vesper here https://qoa-audio.com/product/qoa-vesper/ or on AE (like I did)

QoA Vesper - aftermarket cable Satin Audio Hyperion 10x braid (not mandatory to enjoy the Vesper)
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How does that Hyperion 10x sound? It is not too common to do an asymmetrical 10x as well as 4x and 8x and I only had one 10x cable.
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 9:11 PM Post #71,378 of 151,279
Looks like a wide diffusion style tuning🤔

The old 2020’s shell looks nice👀
2020 version isn't worth it, not sure about 2022 tho... It look really cool in real life, but cheap feeling sadly.
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 9:35 PM Post #71,380 of 151,279
The TRN V90 is outclassed by the OH10, many times over.

Sorry, my head is only thinking about tomorrow's feast, so my analogy is a clay pot, rice 😋
If you don't have an appreciation for the goodness at the very bottom, then stick with the V90. Now if you have soup spoon in hand and ready to dig in, get the OH10.

On AE (without a sale) the OH10 is $116.62 USD, from IKKO Lot Store; that's where I got my set from, a couple months back.
I am considering it...

...if it works with Jambalaya that is...

Cheers
 
Jan 21, 2023 at 10:11 PM Post #71,383 of 151,279
Updated incoming items: personal purchase
TRN X7 (1-2weeks)
TRN Xuanwu (2weeks)
QoA Vesper (2 weeks)
Flo Audio Lily (3weeks)
DUNU Titan S (3weeks)
Sound Rhyme 5 (4 weeks)
KZ ESX (4-6weeks)
PW Audio Titan Ignis Cable ( 4 weeks)
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Since PW Audio‘a Copper 28 V2 ($89USD) is one of a very good all rounder cable, I decided to go to Ignis one $159👀 Probably highest price I’d pay for a cable alone, looking forward to compare with PWA Copper 28 V2, PWA Legend II, PWA Copper M2.
 
Jan 22, 2023 at 1:58 AM Post #71,384 of 151,279
A good bit of my collection is at 50 or above, so I guess that gives me a sense of how I like the Harman Target?

could be that the Harman Target just does well with the music you're listening to - and you're fine with the tuning.

For me particularly the bass emphasis can be really a tad bit too much at times and uncomfortable.

If it's around 50 - I wouldn't really consider it Harman Target or similar to it - more like "Harman Neutral" or something else.

A few IEMs I got that seem to have that emphasized bass and typical Harman tuning are more around 70 and above rating from the AutoEQ rating list,

they're pretty fun and engaging and nice but with bass-heavy tracks they're close to unbearable - too much
 

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