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Jul 13, 2021 at 1:26 AM Post #57,796 of 103,584
So I got asked what is the difference in sound vs the SG-01 and the GK10.

SG-01 has more upper mid and lower treble emphasis to my ears vs the extremely well balanced GK10. This is not a bad thing as the sense of clarity for the SG-01 done tastefully and is also very well balanced relative to the rest of the signature. There is a slight female vocal lift for the SG-01 meaning without even seeing the graph on the SG-01 I am gonna guess roughly 10dbs of pinna gain. SG-01s is a single graphene dynamic but one that is tuned to optimize the driver to its fullest. Coherence is optimal and I will say is more fluent in how the sound is presented vs the multi driver GK10. Your really getting a well tuned earphone here with good clarity, surprisingly great imaging and even though the earphones are compact and is using a fairly smaller shell it has a very good well rounded stage. Granted the stage for both earphones are about average you can clearly pick out parts of sound that is supposed to be there with the SG-01. Both the SG-01 and the GK10 are not overly emphasized in any one region but how both portray its sound signatures is a bit different. SG-01 being a single dynamic you get the obvious benefits of single dynamic coherence and a seamless transition of the three zones of sound I can also argue its treble performance sound a bit more natural in tone and ability vs the GK10. Don't know if you guys have ever heard Piezo treble but it does sound a bit thinner in note vs your standard BA or EST treble. It isn't a deal breaker since it actually has a very well extended treble end that mimics much higher end trebles with excellent sparkle and surprising detail coming from the GK10 something your not going to get too much of done correctly on budget fi offerings.

GK10 is using every single driver it has to full advantage here also for each part of the sound portions it is representing. It does have the upper hand on the SG-01 in sheer dimensionality and is more technical. This is the advantage of using multiple types of drivers. While the SG-01 has to use more pinna gain in order for that better clarity to the sound the GK10 just simply represents each portion of the sound more effortlessly. With lesser pinna gain for the GK10 and also seem to have a bit more in the way of lower mids vs the GK10. Treble is presented a bit differently the GK10 has the better treble extension but the SG-01 has a bit more in the way of emphasis for the main parts of the trebles.

The GK10 is tuned more for western enthusiasts vs the SG-01 more for eastern enthusiasts. You guys realize for less than $100 you can actually get both and have a serious 1 2 punch for excellent budget fi. I spent $100 recently on a set of Ikko CTU-01 cables and some Spiral dot+++ tips. Lol.
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Oh wait it isn't exactly $100. Actually these two masterclass budget fi earphones would be $15 less at $85.

Bass for both sets really are excellent but as you can guess the GK10 uses its largest dynamic driver plated in Titanium coating to do that bass. This being said. SG-01 is no weak sauce for bass in fact its sub bass performance is very excellent. GK10 has a bit more authority in the bass regions but the SG-01 bass quality like the rest of the sound is very surprising for what it can do. Pick your poison graphene bass or titanium bass. Both will rumble with authority with very good definition for bass.

You really cant go wrong with either or to be completely honest. This pic shown, I purposefully switched out cables just to see how they are on the other phones cables I am using. I decided I like it better the other way around. SG-01 has good clarity so a warmer copper cable benefits its tuning it is the NiceHCK Lofty cables actually. The SPC White crane here suits the GK10 better.
Which one is more transparent, more airy, and has better stage & more 3D imaging?
 
Jul 13, 2021 at 2:31 AM Post #57,797 of 103,584
So I got asked what is the difference in sound vs the SG-01 and the GK10.

SG-01 has more upper mid and lower treble emphasis to my ears vs the extremely well balanced GK10. This is not a bad thing as the sense of clarity for the SG-01 done tastefully and is also very well balanced relative to the rest of the signature. There is a slight female vocal lift for the SG-01 meaning without even seeing the graph on the SG-01 I am gonna guess roughly 10dbs of pinna gain. SG-01s is a single graphene dynamic but one that is tuned to optimize the driver to its fullest. Coherence is optimal and I will say is more fluent in how the sound is presented vs the multi driver GK10. Your really getting a well tuned earphone here with good clarity, surprisingly great imaging and even though the earphones are compact and is using a fairly smaller shell it has a very good well rounded stage. Granted the stage for both earphones are about average you can clearly pick out parts of sound that is supposed to be there with the SG-01. Both the SG-01 and the GK10 are not overly emphasized in any one region but how both portray its sound signatures is a bit different. SG-01 being a single dynamic you get the obvious benefits of single dynamic coherence and a seamless transition of the three zones of sound I can also argue its treble performance sound a bit more natural in tone and ability vs the GK10. Don't know if you guys have ever heard Piezo treble but it does sound a bit thinner in note vs your standard BA or EST treble. It isn't a deal breaker since it actually has a very well extended treble end that mimics much higher end trebles with excellent sparkle and surprising detail coming from the GK10 something your not going to get too much of done correctly on budget fi offerings.

GK10 is using every single driver it has to full advantage here also for each part of the sound portions it is representing. It does have the upper hand on the SG-01 in sheer dimensionality and is more technical. This is the advantage of using multiple types of drivers. While the SG-01 has to use more pinna gain in order for that better clarity to the sound the GK10 just simply represents each portion of the sound more effortlessly. With lesser pinna gain for the GK10 and also seem to have a bit more in the way of lower mids vs the GK10. Treble is presented a bit differently the GK10 has the better treble extension but the SG-01 has a bit more in the way of emphasis for the main parts of the trebles.

The GK10 is tuned more for western enthusiasts vs the SG-01 more for eastern enthusiasts. You guys realize for less than $100 you can actually get both and have a serious 1 2 punch for excellent budget fi. I spent $100 recently on a set of Ikko CTU-01 cables and some Spiral dot+++ tips. Lol.
1626148753948.png and 1626148799862.png

OR
DSC08330.JPG
Oh wait it isn't exactly $100. Actually these two masterclass budget fi earphones would be $15 less at $85.

Bass for both sets really are excellent but as you can guess the GK10 uses its largest dynamic driver plated in Titanium coating to do that bass. This being said. SG-01 is no weak sauce for bass in fact its sub bass performance is very excellent. GK10 has a bit more authority in the bass regions but the SG-01 bass quality like the rest of the sound is very surprising for what it can do. Pick your poison graphene bass or titanium bass. Both will rumble with authority with very good definition for bass.

You really cant go wrong with either or to be completely honest. This pic shown, I purposefully switched out cables just to see how they are on the other phones cables I am using. I decided I like it better the other way around. SG-01 has good clarity so a warmer copper cable benefits its tuning it is the NiceHCK Lofty cables actually. The SPC White crane here suits the GK10 better.
Any changes with burn in?
 
Jul 13, 2021 at 2:35 AM Post #57,798 of 103,584
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Jul 13, 2021 at 5:06 AM Post #57,799 of 103,584
The MT300 doesn't have sibilance, but yes, old SFR's did.
Probably that's because of new EST driver they're using. But all their budget (<$50) variants have that annoying sibilance
 
Jul 13, 2021 at 9:10 AM Post #57,801 of 103,584
Nice to see the comparison graphs. I'll steer well clear of both of them. That treble gain would absolutely murder my ears. I'm sure there are plenty of treble-lovers out there who would find them quite suitable.
 
Jul 13, 2021 at 9:47 AM Post #57,802 of 103,584
Which one is more transparent, more airy, and has better stage & more 3D imaging?
GK10 but the SG-01 has a better sense of clairity due to more upper mid presentation. Stage is roughly very similar actually between the two otherwise the GK10 is the more technical earphone. SG-01 sounds a touch more airy for mids but the GK10 sounds more airy for trebles .

For you ace I would get the GK10. I think your gonna appreciate how they sound especilly for the little money.

Any changes with burn in?
GK10 sounds a bit rough out of the box especially the treble area sounds a bit brittle. Sound kinda fills out after some run in.
SG-01 sounds more smoother more fluid after some time.

I got word GK10s are flying off the shelves. Lol!
 
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Jul 13, 2021 at 10:02 AM Post #57,803 of 103,584
Thanks! Ah…NM2+ Type…….🥺 it hurts with pure-bery driver’s timbre.
I have NM2+ and my impression is that was not my cup of tea.
 
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Jul 13, 2021 at 10:07 AM Post #57,804 of 103,584
Jul 13, 2021 at 10:19 AM Post #57,806 of 103,584
Oh! You would think for all the drivers and cost it would be at LEAST a B. Sad
With EQ it does get a B....

But the GD3A is still leagues ahead even with EQ on the GD11.....
 
Jul 13, 2021 at 10:24 AM Post #57,807 of 103,584
With EQ it does get a B....

But the GD3A is still leagues ahead even with EQ on the GD11.....

Well one can argue that a flagship or higher end model that needs EQ or mods to salvage the tuning shouldn't deserve the "flagship" title
 
Jul 13, 2021 at 10:27 AM Post #57,809 of 103,584
Well one can argue that a flagship or higher end model that needs EQ or mods to salvage the tuning shouldn't deserve the "flagship" title
Nothing about it is flagship worthy to me....


Yikes this is unexpected after your review of their GD3A. My confidence in their GD3B is wavering
Its 50/50 so far for me. :joy:
 
Jul 13, 2021 at 11:02 AM Post #57,810 of 103,584

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